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View Poll Results: Marijuana prohibition: Who is responsible?
Big Pharma/private prisons 19 35.19%
The Christian Right 4 7.41%
Both equally 31 57.41%
Voters: 54. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-12-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Most Americans support legalization and an overwhelming majority support at least medical marijuana. Who doesn't? Republicans.

Question is, why? Is it a conspiracy between Big Pharma and the private prison industry? Or, is it the Christian Right's insistence on imposing their morality? Or, do both share equal blame?

Really?

It was collusion between DuPont, WR Hearst, Anslinger and their cronies in congress. The entire war on weed was started to protect the plastics industry and nylon in particular.

When the US entered WWII the war on weed was halted because the Navy had a shortage of hemp. After the WWII ended the war on weed was reinstated and has cost over $1T and ruined many hundreds of thousands of lives.


https://www.massroots.com/learn/the-...na-prohibition

The government is certainly to blame for 1- passing the CSA and improperly scheduling it as being worse than heroin and cocaine. 2 - Reagan ramping up the war to absurd levels.

Polls should include choices that actually pertain to the question. Why would you include Christians as a choice when they had nothing to do with it? Big Pharma did'nt begin lobbying against legalization until the 90s when they started to feel threatened by it. They lost that war; NOW, they are investing in growing it themselves.


If you're seriously interested in facts:
Why Is Marijuana A Schedule I Drug?

The DEA is as misguided as ever
DEA rules marijuana is still a schedule 1 drug, as dangerous as LSD and heroin | Miami Herald
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Old 05-12-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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The roots of prohibition is based in racism and money (hemp and hemp-based paper threatened some VERY large industries back then). The Christian Right didn't become involved in it's continued prohibition until later.

The answer was to demonize cannabis. All of it. That way hemp could be locked down too.
Racism? How?
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Old 05-12-2017, 01:01 PM
 
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Racism? How?
Before it was prohibited, blacks (and a few other minorities) used it much more extensively than whites. Whites have their origins in European culture, which used alcohol as their drug of choice.

So when it came time to "crack down" on the "Negro problem", making marijuana illegal with criminal repercussions was one of the many ways they did so. The marijuana plant itself was causing no problems in society, it was made illegal for reasons completely unrelated to the effects of the plant when ingested. In order to cover that up, "Reefer Madness" was created, along with the ensuing brainwashing campaign that has lasted ever since.

Hence, in congress, testimony was actually given that "marihuana causes young white women to sleep with black jazz musicians". Really. No kidding.

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Old 05-12-2017, 01:07 PM
 
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None of the above, I would say ignorance and a lack of common sense are the reasons it fell under the same category as cocaine and keep it from being handled as is alcohol. Thankfully that is changing state by state and no matter what some in the federal government want it will be legal in all 50 states within the next 5 or so years.
I doubt that, as much as I would like it to be legalized.

Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Alabama will be 20-30 years away.
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Old 05-12-2017, 01:17 PM
 
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Marijuana prohibition is the result of racism and lobbying by beer and liquor manufacturers. It really began as a way to stop white people from falling prey to the demon weed predominately used by blacks and Latinos. The whole reefer madness deal with good white people turning into monsters after trying the demon weed used by jazz musicians. That is what gave us the war on some drugs. I always chuckle when I see a group of police officers in a bar getting drunk after a hard day of arresting people for smoking a plant.
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Old 05-12-2017, 01:25 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Most Americans support legalization and an overwhelming majority support at least medical marijuana. Who doesn't? Republicans.

Question is, why? Is it a conspiracy between Big Pharma and the private prison industry? Or, is it the Christian Right's insistence on imposing their morality? Or, do both share equal blame?


Originally... The wood pulp industry.
Hemp was their competition. The same hemp it use to be a law, everyone had to grow on their property at the beginning of this nation.
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Old 05-12-2017, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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During the hearings to determine whether it should be prohibited, testimony was actually given in front of congress as to how "Marihuana causes young white women to sleep with black jazz musicians".

I kid you not.
Are you saying government infringed on the rights of the individual which is bad enough AND they used racism? Why that's highly unusual. Government is much more moral than that.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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I doubt that, as much as I would like it to be legalized.

Oklahoma, Mississippi, and Alabama will be 20-30 years away.

Not sure about Mississippi, but the other two will go soon enough, Texas is about 2-3 years away from it and OK will follow along in the following 2. Law Enforcement across the state was instrumental getting our pot laws reduced twice now and legalization (State $$$$$) is not far down the road. Colorado is making a good chunk of cash these days, ever seen a state turn down money.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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Before it was prohibited, blacks (and a few other minorities) used it much more extensively than whites. Whites have their origins in European culture, which used alcohol as their drug of choice.

So when it came time to "crack down" on the "Negro problem", making marijuana illegal with criminal repercussions was one of the many ways they did so. The marijuana plant itself was causing no problems in society, it was made illegal for reasons completely unrelated to the effects of the plant when ingested. In order to cover that up, "Reefer Madness" was created, along with the ensuing brainwashing campaign that has lasted ever since.

Hence, in congress, testimony was actually given that "marihuana causes young white women to sleep with black jazz musicians". Really. No kidding.
Ahhh, you know your history. Well done.
Watch out for those Black Jazz Musicians, the White ones will treat ya just right.........
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:37 PM
 
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Not sure about Mississippi, but the other two will go soon enough, Texas is about 2-3 years away from it and OK will follow along in the following 2. Law Enforcement across the state was instrumental getting our pot laws reduced twice now and legalization (State $$$$$) is not far down the road. Colorado is making a good chunk of cash these days, ever seen a state turn down money.
Texas is a good deal more libertarian than Oklahoma. The Christian Right is big in Texas but doesn't run the show like it does in Oklahoma. However, you are right that Oklahoma's hand will be forced whenever Texas legalizes as people who live in OKC will be able to drive an hour and a half to Gainesville to get legal marijuana. My guess is that states like Oklahoma will "compromise" and decriminalize, but will ban dispensaries.
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