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Old 05-12-2017, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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Much of the frozen veg/meats at dollar stores (Dollar Tree etc...) says "Made in China".
I avoid them.
You could find much of US meat exports being processed in China and returned for US consumption.

"Tyson has been instrumental in helping China get the status of being “equivalent” to the USA in processing poultry and, therefore, China can now legally process U.S. Chicken into the U.S. And restaurants that serve this China-processed chicken do not have to label this food as being from China."
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:39 PM
 
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uhh..... still trump's fault!
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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That's why we need to tell the WTO to go fly a kite.

Who does the WTO think they are? We are a sovereign state. Time to show the WTO who is boss.
Don't be silly who do you think the USA runs to every 5 minutes to protect our interests? WTO ensures our 100k meds are not just ripped off, it protects our IP , our brand , our markets . We can complain when someone dumps steel on us or when someone steals our brands...

WTO is one of the best "tricks" the west every made up.
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:55 PM
 
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Much of the frozen veg/meats at dollar stores (Dollar Tree etc...) says "Made in China".
I avoid them.
You could find much of US meat exports being processed in China and returned for US consumption.

"Tyson has been instrumental in helping China get the status of being “equivalent” to the USA in processing poultry and, therefore, China can now legally process U.S. Chicken into the U.S. And restaurants that serve this China-processed chicken do not have to label this food as being from China."
scary to think what might be happening to the chicken there. We stopped shopping in a few places because they are not handling goods correctly in the chain you can see it in the food.

Meanwhile Trump is slashing the budgets and degrading the departments that oversee these things. We need more regulations on imports, additives, handling and processing not less.

Time i review what we are eating again...
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:02 PM
 
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The deal will lower our trade deficit with China..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...eal/index.html
Not terribly likely. There will be a slight decrease with the beef, credit cards, and LNG and a slight increase due to the poultry. All in all, this is peanuts compared to current trade between the countries.

Far more important is this promise from the US: "10. The United States recognizes the importance of China’s One Belt and One Road initiative and is to send delegates to attend the Belt and Road Forum in Beijing May 14-15." https://www.commerce.gov/news/press-...-comprehensive

Trump pulled out of the TPP . . . in order to follow China's lead in Eurasian trade. Great . . . the American Century is over and the Chinese Century has begun.

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Cooked poultry.

Nice try.
So chicken, turkey, and other bird meats . . .

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What difference does that make. Still full of after-processing bacteria and god knows what "additives" were in the feed. It won't be labeled either, so we have no way of knowing what poisons we are putting in our bodies.

Chicken Melamine | The American Conservative
It's not like we have a very clear picture of the additives in the feed of our own livestock.

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Supply is not the issue in beef prices, my friend... Our local stockyard is paying less per pound on the hoof than in recent years, cost of beef is still high in the supermarkets. Farmers would raise more beef if they could make a profit with it, it's not a commodity like oil or something, we could easily double our beef production. Corn has something to do with it, kill ethanol, but there are grass-fed beef farmers everywhere nowadays. It's not simple supply and demand, and if farmers' got more of the profit, there would be more beef. Lots more.
It is a matter of supply and demand. There will be a marginal uptick in demand for US beef that will cause an uptick in US beef prices.

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Economy works on the opposite direction. If American ranchers can export more, they'll increase their outputs (common sense) to meet with the higher demand. That means no price change or even lower prices.
That's not common sense. It depends on how expensive it is to increase outputs.

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We get their chicken, they get out beef?

Thats not a good deal AT ALL. Their food, especially chicken has some serious issues for us.

The natural gas export is good...but how much demand, and transport capacity? So that one, I'm not sure is so great either.

In all honesty this looks like a better deal for china then for us.
The gas export piece is probably worst of all--unless you live in North Dakota or West Texas or Canada. The gas we use for heating, cooking, and electricity will now also be converted to LNG for export, ticking up demand and . . . increasing NG prices as a commodity.
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:07 PM
 
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I don't want no stinking Chinese chicken. Who knows what they pump into them. Allowing it to US is reckless.

Also, the Chinese bank deal sounds suspicious.

Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 05-12-2017 at 03:32 PM..
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:27 PM
 
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China to start Importing American Beef + Natural Gas
We already export natural gas to China. It started under Obama.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_expc_s1_m.htm
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:20 PM
 
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We already export natural gas to China. It started under Obama.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/ng/ng_move_expc_s1_m.htm
C'mon, you know it's more fun to blame Trump for everything.
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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The gas export piece is probably worst of all--unless you live in North Dakota or West Texas or Canada. The gas we use for heating, cooking, and electricity will now also be converted to LNG for export, ticking up demand and . . . increasing NG prices as a commodity.
I'm not sure it will be by much (at first), LNG tankers are very specialized, how much transport capacity is there vs's our supply?
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Old 05-12-2017, 05:38 PM
 
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Farmers market chicken
Grass fed beef
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