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I know we are from different worlds, but why in the world would someone choose to just get by in a place like New York, when he could prosper elsewhere?
I know we are from different worlds, but why in the world would someone choose to just get by in a place like New York, when he could prosper elsewhere?
As the article mentions, the improving economy nationwide means it's now easier to get a job elsewhere than it used to be. The other factor mentioned is the surge of babyboomers retiring and wanting to live someplace WARMER. THAT is certainly the case for ME. While I didn't live in NYC, I DID move from a large predominantly Democratic urban area in the north (ie Seattle) to a rural mostly GOP town in Arizona. I did it for a number of reasons - I was tired of all the people and traffic, and the higher costs that go with a large urban area, and since I didn't need to find a job, the slower pace of life of living in small country town was appealing. Most importantly though I wanted to live someplace WARM.
That is a very different statement from the original: "NY is the poorest state"
No it isn't. The topic was are New Yorkers okay with being the poorest state? The only portion of that rambling discussion that was relevant was the super high costs mentioned in Manhattan and I acknowledged that it was indeed part of the reason why after factoring in cost of living, NY state is the poorest state.
As the article mentions, the improving economy nationwide means it's now easier to get a job elsewhere than it used to be. The other factor mentioned is the surge of babyboomers retiring and wanting to live someplace WARMER. THAT is certainly the case for ME. While I didn't live in NYC, I DID move from a large predominantly Democratic urban area in the north (ie Seattle) to a rural mostly GOP town in Arizona. I did it for a number of reasons - I was tired of all the people and traffic, and the higher costs that go with a large urban area, and since I didn't need to find a job, the slower pace of life of living in small country town was appealing. Most importantly though I wanted to live someplace WARM.
Ken
So you weren't okay with being poorer in NYC than you are in Arizona....so one for no on the thread question....thanks.
The reason why people want to live in NYC, LA, DC and San Francisco is for skilled jobs. Much of America suburbia does not have jobs for college educated people. College educated people have to move to big cities for work.
Let me see if I have this right...
People invest considerable sums of money and years of their life to get a degree so that they can pursue a lifestyle that they do not want?
I think you may have cause and effect mixed up. The jobs for educated people are in the big cities because educated people tend to have skills and resources.
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Try getting a job in Tabernacle Iowa with a degree in Fine Arts.
Sorta making my point, here. If you're devoted to Fine Arts, Tabernacle isn't for you.
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Also the US benefited greatly during the recession by keeping interest rates low, thus allowing plenty of the global elite to park their money here in condos.
The high cost of living in the coastal cities way predates the recession.
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Sad part is that NYC smells like urine, and LA and SF is full of homeless people. People are paying money to live in a dump? Only in America.
<shrug> To each their own. Some people like F150s and some like Lexus.
But again - if you actually hold to the idea that market forces provide a worthwhile indicator of actual value, the high cost of living in the large cities would indicate that they provide value.
You're missing the whole point of the thread. New York is only better if you make enough money to not be poor there.
"Better" is subjective. Housing prices aren't. As I said, you have to be willing to ignore a basic tenet of market economy if you're going to make an argument that New York is somehow factually worse.
I know we are from different worlds, but why in the world would someone choose to just get by in a place like New York, when he could prosper elsewhere?
This is the greatest evidence that the original thread post is on target and a huge number of New Yorkers are answering with their feet....no, not okay being poorer than the other 49 states.
I know we are from different worlds, but why in the world would someone choose to just get by in a place like New York, when he could prosper elsewhere?
I did pretty well there, I just got tired of the snow. I ponder moving back from time to time. I have ZERO aspirations of moving to Seattle or anywhere in flyover country.
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