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Just stand by what you said and answer, please. No need for anymore games.
Why dont you just look up the law instead of arguing with me. You dont have to take my word for it.
As far as wrenching a newborn from the arms of its mother and leaving the hospital against her will just because you are the biological father, yes I believe there would be repercussions because the "state" would question your motives and the "state" champions the best interest of the child. At this point the courts would become involved and most likely set custody.
As I said just because a person is a biological parent and listed on the BC as such does not mean courts cant get involved. It does not give you the power to do whatever you want especially if your actions affect the well being of the child.
It takes two to tango, but according to you the repercussions should fall solely on the man and all the benefits should go to the woman.
That's an incredibly sexist, misandric, biased, and otherwise unreasonable opinion.
Shrug, it’s the same mindset the prolifers have against abortion, “women shouldn’t spread their legs if they can’t take the responsibility of a child”.
Why dont you just look up the law instead of arguing with me. You dont have to take my word for it.
As far as wrenching a newborn from the arms of its mother and leaving the hospital against her will just because you are the biological father, yes I believe there would be repercussions because the "state" would question your motives and the "state" champions the best interest of the child. At this point the courts would become involved and most likely set custody.
As I said just because a person is a biological parent and listed on the BC as such does not mean courts cant get involved. It does not give you the power to do whatever you want especially if your actions affect the well being of the child.
Precisely. Lacking absolute rights to do any old thing you want is not the equivalent of not having any rights.
It's a pretty simple concept, yet some folks seem to struggle with it. I don't understand.
No no no. Thats not what you said. You said Dad has parental rights if he is on the birth certificate.
Now you are saying he wouldn't even be allowed to leave with his own kid. Doesn't really reconcile with what you said, does it?
You can apologize now for being so emphatic and so wrong, now.
Parental rights does not give you the authority to leave with a child against the will of the other parent. A mother can not leave the state with a child against the will of the father without legal repercussions. A father can not take a child against the will of the mother without legal repercussions.
Why would you take a newborn from the hospital against the will of the mother?
Shrug, it’s the same mindset the prolifers have against abortion, “women shouldn’t spread their legs if they can’t take the responsibility of a child”.
You're looking at this the wrong way - it's not the fathers or mothers that have rights, they have responsibilities not rights, it's the child that has rights, the right to both parents barring abuse/neglect.
And the father taking the newborn out of the hospital away from its mother goes against the child's right because the child needs their mother at that point.
You're looking at this the wrong way - it's not the fathers or mothers that have rights, they have responsibilities not rights, it's the child that has rights, the right to both parents barring abuse/neglect.
And the father taking the newborn out of the hospital away from its mother goes against the child's right because the child needs their mother at that point.
Men should freeze their sperm, get a vasectomy, then screw around all they want. When and if they want kids, get married to get stronger parental rights
Parental rights does not give you the authority to leave with a child against the will of the other parent. A mother can not leave the state with a child against the will of the father without legal repercussions. A father can not take a child against the will of the mother without legal repercussions.
Why would you take a newborn from the hospital against the will of the mother?
that is total bs. Women with children move away all the time without any repercussions. A man must be a law buff on top of having a small fortune of money and time to fight that. If you are not a 6 figure kinda guy there is nothing you can do to fight that.
Why dont you just look up the law instead of arguing with me. You dont have to take my word for it. As far as wrenching a newborn from the arms of its mother and leaving the hospital against her will just because you are the biological father, yes I believe there would be repercussions because the "state" would question your motives and the "state" champions the best interest of the child. At this point the courts would become involved and most likely set custody.
As I said just because a person is a biological parent and listed on the BC as such does not mean courts cant get involved. It does not give you the power to do whatever you want especially if your actions affect the well being of the child.
The 'State', or more specifically, the police, would get involved because the law says that unmarried Dads have absolutely 0 parental rights... not even the right to see his kid for 10 minutes, without going to court first.
'At this point', Dad would be arrested. The court wouldn't get involved (other than the criminal court) until Dad filed in family court because, as i've said repeatedly, unmarried Dad's have 0 parental and custody rights by default, and unmarried Mom's have full parental and custody rights by default.
Even unmarried Dad's already on the birth certificate.
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