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Actually, she would protect her kids by shielding them regardless of what happened to her. It doesn't mean you are a coward if you don't carry a gun. In fact, it means you are courageous to stand against those who intend to harm you. I think the weak carry a gun because they don't know how to react otherwise. I think they are the ones who are scared.
You still haven't answered my question. And what did you specifically do in law enforcement?
I am not about to post my resume for you, and as I mentioned earlier, this argument has just gotten silly and I'm not going to continue to go over the same talking points with you repeatedly.
LOL. Range fees here are 20 to 25 bucks per person. Plus targets you're at 25 to 30.
9mm about 25 cents a round at wally world
I found "bulk ammo" brass 45 online for 30 cents a round
250 round range day you're over 100 bucks, besides not everyone buys ammo online
Not. Even. Close.
Many ranges where I am, and that is anti gun Bay Area let you shoot all day for $15-20. 9mm can be bad at $160 per 1k. Targets are just a piece of paper, if you spend $5 on targets you are doing it wrong. Ammo costs can mount up if you shoot exotic calibers or shoot high volume, like thousands of rounds a month, but they are not anywhere near high enough to prevent one from being proficient.
If you shoot 100 rounds a month, which is much more than the average police officer does btw, you spend roughly $400 a year, which is hardly an insurmountable cost.
So it is better to be killed and then the kids to be killed while you "shield" them than it is to fight back?
When did protecting yourself and others make you weak and scared?
My daughter isn't weak and scared and I have never been either. You can fight back without guns. To me, guns are a weakness because it means you can't defend yourself on your own abilities.
I am not about to post my resume for you, and as I mentioned earlier, this argument has just gotten silly and I'm not going to continue to go over the same talking points with you repeatedly.
If your talking points are refusing to answer any question that challenges your preconceived notions than I am glad you will no longer be using them.
It is easy to assume that the reason you won't share what role in law enforcement you occupied over a couple of decades is because you stated you were in "law enforcement" so people would assume you were a police officer while you could quiet possibly be working one of the many non sworn positions in a law enforcement agency, like records, booking, maintenance, lab, finance, HR, etc. Stating you did something like that wouldn't help your argument, even though they are all still important positions. Please let me know if I am off base.
My daughter isn't weak and scared and I have never been either. You can fight back without guns. To me, guns are a weakness because it means you can't defend yourself on your own abilities.
Let me check in with my 84 year old grandmother and see if she is up to fighting back with self defense skill. Or perhaps a 110 pound woman, or someone with a physical impediment. I guess all those people should just accept being a victim.
It is mildly ironic that the one thing that has created parity between the young and old, male and female, capable and challenged, strong and weak makes you think you cannot defend yourself.
Let me check in with my 84 year old grandmother and see if she is up to fighting back with self defense skill. Or perhaps a 110 pound woman, or someone with a physical impediment. I guess all those people should just accept being a victim.
It is mildly ironic that the one thing that has created parity between the young and old, male and female, capable and challenged, strong and weak makes you think you cannot defend yourself.
Does your 84 year old grandmother still live on her own.
Many ranges where I am, and that is anti gun Bay Area let you shoot all day for $15-20. 9mm can be bad at $160 per 1k. Targets are just a piece of paper, if you spend $5 on targets you are doing it wrong. Ammo costs can mount up if you shoot exotic calibers or shoot high volume, like thousands of rounds a month, but they are not anywhere near high enough to prevent one from being proficient.
If you shoot 100 rounds a month, which is much more than the average police officer does btw, you spend roughly $400 a year, which is hardly an insurmountable cost.
I don't see the point in making all these range trips and shooting 100 rounds. Everyone I know make a a day of it and shoots several hundred rounds
Also what garbage steel cased ammo are you buying for .16 a round? I'm not putting steel ammo through any of my firearms
People that live high populated areas generally have to go to an indoor range and buy targets.
I don't see the point in making all these range trips and shooting 100 rounds. Everyone I know make a a day of it and shoots several hundred rounds
Also what garbage steel cased ammo are you buying for .16 a round? I'm not putting steel ammo through any of my firearms
People that live high populated areas generally have to go to an indoor range and buy targets.
The point is it is not overly expensive to shoot, especially if you do it often enough to know how to price shop instead of going into big 5 for a couple of boxes of ammo. You can always bring your own targets and many ranges are still out door, even here.
My daughter isn't weak and scared and I have never been either. You can fight back without guns. To me, guns are a weakness because it means you can't defend yourself on your own abilities.
This is simply foolish thinking based on ignorance.
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