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It came to me recently, the two are so different because they have a different philosophy on life.
Conservatives believe in "the carrot and the stick", and believe that life has to be exceedingly hard and difficult to motivate anybody to do anything/be productive
Whereas moderate liberals believe that we still do have to work, but would like to work together to make things just a bit easier.
I believe that the conservative philosophy is rooted all the way back to the Calvinists and Puritans who founded this country, the Puritans believed that if you were happy, that you were commiting a sin....
Conservatism is about small government, personal responsibility and individual freedoms. A real conservative would believe government has no business in marriage; therefore, government can't approve or disapprove of who gets married. Liberalism's governmental control allows politicians to say who can get married which has the side effect of saying who can't get married.
Unfortunately for the Republican Party, many religious people forget the government's role, or lack of, and get a bit liberal and want the government involved where it shouldn't be in order to "do the right thing".
Stateist VS non Stateist.
A stateist can be a Democrat or Republican.
They both believe in government running people's lives....they just disagree on how it should run them.
A true Conservative is more Libertarian in nature, wanting only for government to provide the basic environment that lets people run their own lives with minimal restrictions or interference.
They both believe in government running people's lives....they just disagree on how it should run them.
A true Conservative is more Libertarian in nature, wanting only for government to provide the basic environment that lets people run their own lives with minimal restrictions or interference.
My guess would be multiple televisions, cell phones, gaming systems, probably more home than is needed, etc.
Of course the huge increase in health insurance costs since ACA came online probably doesn't help either.
I was talking about things like rent or mortgage, cars, savings, etc. Being able to pay for those things without going broke is a luxury any more when it shouldn't be.
I'm just wondering why you take pains to whine about people not understanding your position but won't apply the same energy writing a coherent statement about what you do believe. And of course, you take the time to personally attack. Yet again. I'm starting to think that is the only reason you post. You don't want people to understand your side. You just want to make fun of other people. Sad!
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Originally Posted by Magritte25
What part of OP's post was an attack?
I took the time to call BS on the OPs post.
You see, I refuse to believe that the OP is that stupid, that they can't seem to find out the general position of most conservatives when it is pasted all over the Internet or can be understood by asking an honest question to one. Instead, they have this mental breakthrough that just happens to be a complete false narrative on conservatives?
So again, I pointed out that the OP was trolling with an obvious straw man on a general conservative position.
So you can cut out the victim posting nonsense, nobody is buying that crap.
Conservatives believe that individuals should be free to define what constitutes "success" for themselves.
There are many people who work in occupations that you described who consider themselves "successful".
For instance.... I work in a trade that enabled me to work my way to a mid level management position. Am I rich? Not by a long shot.
But I make enough to afford a modest albeit nice home, support my family and have some luxury items etc.
Now, I could rise higher in my company or even start my own business and make considerably more money than I do now....
But I know that I'd have to make a lot of sacrifices that I'm not really wanting to make in order to get there.......Namely working longer hours away from my family and the other things I enjoy.
So.... I've reached a point where I'm happy with my level of success.
And Conservatives just want to create an environment that allows people to work their way to their personal level of what defines "success".
As do liberals. But we have a different view of what constitutes a healthy environment for which labor results in success.
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