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Old 05-15-2017, 02:48 PM
 
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Most terrorist acts within the US in recent years have been committed by Americans - usually, either American-born Muslims or converts to Islam, the extreme Left-wing/Black Bloc anarchist types, or the violent elements within the extreme anti-government Far Right. The last of these three were responsible for the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in the United States (OKC bombing), by far.

Most attacks here, however, have few casualties. Most terrorists within the US are individuals acting in isolation or with at most, one or two accomplices.

Seems to me like the threat from "outside" is rather overblown, and the overall threat is as well.
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:56 PM
 
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How do you know 9/11 wasn't committed by Americans? The only 'evidence' they have that Bin Laden did it is a highly questionable tape recording?

If the Oklahoma City bombing was committed by domestic terrorists, 9/11 could have been (and was IMO) as well.
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:36 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Most terrorist acts within the US in recent years have been committed by Americans - usually, either American-born Muslims or converts to Islam, the extreme Left-wing/Black Bloc anarchist types, or the violent elements within the extreme anti-government Far Right. The last of these three were responsible for the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in the United States (OKC bombing), by far.

Most attacks here, however, have few casualties. Most terrorists within the US are individuals acting in isolation or with at most, one or two accomplices.

Seems to me like the threat from "outside" is rather overblown, and the overall threat is as well.

And the country that had the most citizens responsible for the attacks isn't on the 'travel ban' list.
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Old 05-15-2017, 04:48 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Most terrorist acts within the US in recent years have been committed by Americans - usually, either American-born Muslims or converts to Islam, the extreme Left-wing/Black Bloc anarchist types, or the violent elements within the extreme anti-government Far Right. The last of these three were responsible for the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in the United States (OKC bombing), by far.

Most attacks here, however, have few casualties. Most terrorists within the US are individuals acting in isolation or with at most, one or two accomplices.

Seems to me like the threat from "outside" is rather overblown, and the overall threat is as well.
A "Few Casualties" is an acceptable form of terrorism to you?
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Old 05-16-2017, 02:13 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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How do you know 9/11 wasn't committed by Americans? The only 'evidence' they have that Bin Laden did it is a highly questionable tape recording?

If the Oklahoma City bombing was committed by domestic terrorists, 9/11 could have been (and was IMO) as well.
Attacking a Federal bldg and attacking a bldg dedicated to Capitalism are not the same thing. This was the second attack on the WTC for what is symbolized. Both attacks were based from the Middle East.
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:29 AM
 
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How do you know 9/11 wasn't committed by Americans? The only 'evidence' they have that Bin Laden did it is a highly questionable tape recording?

If the Oklahoma City bombing was committed by domestic terrorists, 9/11 could have been (and was IMO) as well.
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And the country that had the most citizens responsible for the attacks isn't on the 'travel ban' list.
9/11 was done by 19 al-Qaida terrorists, al-Qaida was hq'd in Afghanistan
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Old 05-16-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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How do you know 9/11 wasn't committed by Americans? The only 'evidence' they have that Bin Laden did it is a highly questionable tape recording?

If the Oklahoma City bombing was committed by domestic terrorists, 9/11 could have been (and was IMO) as well.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:23 AM
 
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9/11 was done by 19 al-Qaida terrorists,

That's your opinion.
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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Most terrorist acts within the US in recent years have been committed by Americans - usually, either American-born Muslims or converts to Islam, the extreme Left-wing/Black Bloc anarchist types, or the violent elements within the extreme anti-government Far Right. The last of these three were responsible for the deadliest act of domestic terrorism in the United States (OKC bombing), by far.

Most attacks here, however, have few casualties. Most terrorists within the US are individuals acting in isolation or with at most, one or two accomplices.

Seems to me like the threat from "outside" is rather overblown, and the overall threat is as well.
The part you are missing are thwarted attacks of which there have been many.

Not just foreign muslim attacks but also thwarted white national attacks etc.

It's just easier to keep out foreigners and scrutinize their visas etc. so the attackers have focused more on recruiting US citizens etc.

There have been a number of severe attacks thwarted including aircraft bombings, you have to consider those. Right?
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Old 05-16-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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How do you know 9/11 wasn't committed by Americans? The only 'evidence' they have that Bin Laden did it is a highly questionable tape recording?

If the Oklahoma City bombing was committed by domestic terrorists, 9/11 could have been (and was IMO) as well.
You just completely threw out the video of the guys getting on the planes and testimony via cell phone calls from people on the planes etc etc.

Talk about just eviscerating your credibility. Now do the walk of shame.
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