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Old 05-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: SW Florida
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My bet is a lot of people on this thread will be doing some serious excuse scrambling when Comey testifies Trump didn't order him or pressure him to drop the Flynn investigation.
I imagine that they'll consider Comey a villain again if that happens.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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1. trump didn't force it...otherwise the case would have been dropped back in feb





let's put this in perspective


april 2016 Obama asks the FBI and AG not to prosecute Hillary... July 2016 FBI drops the case, says no intent..... no-one NO-ONE pushes for impeachment



Feb 2017 Trump asks the FBI not to prosecute Flynn, may 2017 a memo is leaked... the entire left and some of the right, is ready to impeach Trump



sorry, but this is not passing the fairness test


Obama did not ask the FBI to drop the case against Clinton. Comey never even came close to Obama, he wouldn't even play basketball with him. Trump on the other hand ordered Sessions to leave the room and then requested that Comey back off the Flynn investigation.


Imagine a president asking the FBI director if he was under investigation, not once but 3 times, if that isn't weird enough in itself.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:01 AM
 
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He is, try reading the law. He has to report as soon as possible to any public/military official the crime.

As soon as possible is not waiting until you are fired.

Nice try at the spin, reminds me of the ignorant defense arguments of Hillary.
You are so full of it. He is in charge of the domestic investigating arm of the government. If the President tries to improperly influence an investigation, he's the one who has to evaluate the action.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:03 AM
 
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This would be documented.

It is like you people have never worked in any official capacity. Even private companies have a process for documentation of such.
It may be documented. Just because news of the memo gets leaked doesn't mean that everything's been leaked.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Your argument is invalid. Who he reports to is not the requirement for the reporting of this information. The reason of this laws broad nature of reporting allowance is to specifically avoid the conflict of being in a position where the people you normally report to may be the ones compromised.


Keep up, you are out of your depth.
Who he reports to is certainly relevant to this discussion. You are just full of bs. Because what good would it to for him to report the conversation to Officer Joe Blow at the PD department? Or to Judge Smith in Family Court? It is HIS agency that would pursue an investigation. HIS agency. Not the Washington DC PD. The F B I. If the conversation involves an investigation that the Attorney General has recused himself from, and the Director of National Security is not in place, AGAIN, the BEST option for the FBI Director is to document the incident, and to file it in the investigation it pertains to. Which is what he did.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:09 AM
 
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1. trump didn't force it...otherwise the case would have been dropped back in feb





let's put this in perspective


april 2016 Obama asks the FBI and AG not to prosecute Hillary... July 2016 FBI drops the case, says no intent..... no-one NO-ONE pushes for impeachment



Feb 2017 Trump asks the FBI not to prosecute Flynn, may 2017 a memo is leaked... the entire left and some of the right, is ready to impeach Trump



sorry, but this is not passing the fairness test
Your perspective is skewed, because there is no evidence that Obama asked the FBI or the Attorney General to do anything with regard to the investigations into Secretary Clinton.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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Your perspective is skewed, because there is no evidence that Obama asked the FBI or the Attorney General to do anything with regard to the investigations into Secretary Clinton.
And there is no evidence that Trump did this either. A memo doesn't count. What if Trump has a memo that says something different? Will the judging authority have them play rock paper scissors to see who's will be deemed the truth?
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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Trump committed no crime, this is fun to watch, sure are going to be a lot of disappointed liberals, but they should be use to disappointment by now.
I don't think the evidence leads us to conclude that President Trump committed a crime. And the impeachment process should not be used when the evidence is so thin. Partisanship is out of control.

At the same time, even though the evidence is thin, I don't think we can say with certainty that Trump committed no crime.

And if he did indeed ask Comey to pledge loyalty to him the President, or if he did indeed try to get Comey to drop an investigation, these things aren't just inappropriate. They show a person who is completely clueless about the ethics that are required of a President. Granted, he's new on the job, and has no government experience, but there's actually an Office of Government Ethics. Part of their job is to educate members of the Executive Branch on ethical responsibilities. President Trump doesn't seem to think that he has any ethical responsibilities, and that's a problem.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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And there is no evidence that Trump did this either. A memo doesn't count. What if Trump has a memo that says something different? Will the judging authority have them play rock paper scissors to see who's will be deemed the truth?
We have not seen the memo but the smart money says it's correct.
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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And there is no evidence that Trump did this either. A memo doesn't count. What if Trump has a memo that says something different? Will the judging authority have them play rock paper scissors to see who's will be deemed the truth?
Why doesn't a memo count?

The memo was written by the Director of the FBI, immediately following a meeting. FBI agents are trained to do this.

If Trump has a memo saying something different, I'm sure we'll hear about it.
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