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Old 05-18-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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If he broke the law he should pay the price. Pretty simple.

 
Old 05-18-2017, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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BREAKING: Michael Flynn's lawyers say he will not honor subpoena.
Team Trumpers only honor orders from Russia.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Trump can pardon him and is stupid enough to do it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9c9d29e90980
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At any point in time, Trump could extricate Flynn from any perceived judicial witch hunt, granting him immunity for any federal crimes. There would be political fallout. But that it would be so unusual may be as much of a reason for Trump to do it as anything.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Trump can pardon him and is stupid enough to do it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.9c9d29e90980


It is an interesting, and true, point. President Trump could indeed pardon Mr. Flynn.


However, the law concerning 'pleading the Fifth' is quite interesting.


In summary, if Mr. Trump were to pardon Mr. Flynn for any and all alleged wrongdoing (like when Ford pardoned Nixon), Mr. Flynn would no longer be able to 'plead the Fifth' against self-incrimination, since he would no longer be subject to prosecution. Mr. Flynn could then be compelled to testify, or face sanctions for not doing do. Sanctions can include sitting in prison until he is willing to testify.


It would probably be foolhardy for Mr. Trump to pardon Mr. Flynn, such being the case. Of course, if Mr. Trump were absolutely sure that Mr. Flynn could not testify to any fact that would harm Mr. Trump, he may want to do so.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Nor would I, if the DOJ just said I was being investigated.
You have the right remain silent, what you say will be used against you, and never to help you.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 01:03 PM
 
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"LOCK HIM UP"
 
Old 05-18-2017, 01:05 PM
 
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Every American should thank our founding fathers for the inclusion of the 5th Amendment.

Every lawyer worth his or her salt would recommend the client to take the 5th or immunity.

Every person with a brain larger than a pea should take that recommendation.

Every partisan hack, liberal and conversation, would make that a proof of being guilty.
I totally agree with this. He cannot be forced to testify and doing so is not evidence of guilt.

He can't refuse the subpoena though. Doesn't have to say anything, but he does have to show up.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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"BREAKING: Michael Flynn's lawyers say he will not honor subpoena."

Proof: Where there's smoke, there's fire.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Must admit, I would get a chuckle watching this skin-head shuffle up to the gates of prison in leg irons.
 
Old 05-18-2017, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Well, this new special counsel is sure to call Flynn to testify, so maybe he thinks that is the only place he will get a fair hearing?

The senate and house hearings are usually nothing but a political circus, where politicians want to denigrate, grandstand and publicly ridicule witnesses.
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