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Old 05-19-2017, 06:46 AM
 
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Also, to the extent that illegals are crossing the border and getting hired, it's because business owners in fields like construction and agriculture - who are hardly likely to be liberals - are hiring them. So why don't you go after them?
FYI, I would!!!

 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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Oh ok..then that settles it...this one guy doesn't hire them, so that means millions of others dont!
I didn't say that. the poster was implying that only conservatives hire illegals. Yeah i bet liberals are just squeaky clean..
 
Old 05-19-2017, 06:57 AM
 
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I didn't say that. the poster was implying that only conservatives hire illegals. Yeah i bet liberals are just squeaky clean..
No one said liberals are.....

Do you want to know what the real issue that’s dividing this country? It’s people like you, the one’s that play party politics and assume the other side is always wrong or bad, and destroying the country with their ideology. What made this country so great? Bipartisanship. When we reached across the aisle and worked with other Americans, the best in us came out.

You asked about what damage is being done in a previous post. Look around you, look at all the chaos and division. We’re screaming at each other instead of talking and working together. When you sit behind a keyboard and are more concerned about “making liberals sad” then anything else, what are you really doing to make America better? Nothing. You’re just escalating the issue and being a partisan hack, you’ve stopped putting your country first, you’re putting your party or ideology over the health of the nation.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:06 AM
 
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You’re just escalating the issue and being a partisan hack, you’ve stopped putting your country first, you’re putting your party or ideology over the health of the nation.
I don't know where you've been but I've criticized both the republican establishment and Trump.

FYI...i do love this country...
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Here's some info for you... It's not just legitimate licensed American businesses that are the problem.

Illegal aliens run underground economy unlicensed businesses in the U.S., and employ other illegal aliens while paying no FICA, no federal income tax, etc.

And because it appears as if they have no income, they easily sign up their "anchor" children (who shouldn't even be US citizens at all, same as their parents) for all kinds of freebie welfare benefits, on top of that tax-free and unreported income.

Illegal aliens' underground economy unlicensed, unregistered, and therefore untaxed businesses, untaxed employees' income, etc., is hardly ever talked about.
They sound like the very people we would want to come here. Just imagine if these entrepreneurs could become legal instead of having to hide!

As for your 'anchor baby' comment, that's a problem with our constitution. Don't like it? Work to change it. But don't blame people for taking advantage of it. For what it's worth, I agree that just because a baby is born on US soil the child should automatically become an American citizen...unless one of the baby's parents is an American.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Exactly! And the people doing the hiring are conservative business owners!

What would lazy snowflake liberals hire them for? It's hard enough to live on 'welfare'. What liberals have the extra cash for spending money on 'hired help'?


Wrong! Both Republican and Democrat business owners are equally guilty of hiring illegal aliens.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Wrong! Both Republican and Democrat business owners are equally guilty of hiring illegal aliens.
At least we finally got conservatives to admit that liberals have jobs...
 
Old 05-19-2017, 07:52 AM
 
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It's interesting how some people ignore facts in favor of outrage. Here's an article on the subject from Trump's Alma Mater, the Wharton School of Business. Immigration has no effect on wages. Apparently there is no effect on employment rates either, since we are at full employment. I get the impression they are outraged that nobody powders their asses for being being born in this country.

The Effects of Immigration on the United States

Illegal immigration isn't "immigration" and illegal aliens aren't "immigrants". Any source that blurs the lines between those two groups isn't credible.


Let me give you examples of both groups bringing down wages. Illegal aliens have flooded the construction industry now those jobs pay half of what they use to. Same thing for IT jobs where legal workers are imported to replace American IT workers for less.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 08:03 AM
 
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Did you know that illegal immigration has been on the decline since well before Trump came into office?

Also, to the extent that illegals are crossing the border and getting hired, it's because business owners in fields like construction and agriculture - who are hardly likely to be liberals - are hiring them. So why don't you go after them?

Also, those corporations exporting the jobs overseas... they are capitalist enterprises. How do you stop them? You write laws that restrict where and how they can do business. Didn't know you were a socialist, did you?

Whether the decline is true or not we still have millions of illegal aliens here sucking up our jobs, taxes and resources.


Only 2% of illegals are working in the ag business and for those jobs there are unlimited H-2A visas for legal workers. The rest of them are doing jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage until millions of cheap illegals flooded our border. Hardly likely to be liberals? Um, most mom and pop business owners aren't likely to be conservatives. Last I looked many large business owners are also Democrats not just Republicans. As for going after all of these business owners Trump has e-verify in his 2018 budget but unless we remove all of the means for them to support themselves they'll still come here. We need to deny their U.S. born kids our citizenship also and any benefits.


Make it less attractive financially for our jobs to be exported. That can be done also.
 
Old 05-19-2017, 08:05 AM
 
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At least we finally got conservatives to admit that liberals have jobs...

Did you miss the part about where I was speaking of business owners? They aren't the run of the mill American left or right.
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