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Maybe the best strategy is for students to give him ten minutes of speech before deciding to walk out or not. It may be different than a campaign speech. He knows he is speaking to many that don't agree on some issues. Plus he was governor of Indiana not long ago. Doubt he will push a right wing agenda at Notre Dame. With Trump's controversies mounting, he has to be smart enough to know a tactful, thoughtful speech is the smart decision. Will probably be a more centrist tone. Could be wrong, but maybe he will be a pleasant surprise.
Agree with you that it probably will not be violent.
I personally feel it's extremely poor decorum and also disrespectful to any of their fellow students however who see Commencement as an extremely important hard-earned day in their lives and don't deserve the chaotic and disruptive environment that this "protest" will create. Attention-seeking behavior at the expense of everyone in attendance.
This is about what my college attending son said. He found it disrespectful/rude to the school AND the parents, some of whom came a long way to see their kids graduate only to see their offspring throw a tantrum.
I hope none of those that walked off ever expect anyone to listen to them ever again.
Men and women died for our rights to do exactly what these graduates did yesterday and yet we see this onslaught of anger, offense and judgment from those who oppose such actions.
Once again.....
I'm not saying the little snots don't have a right to protest.
I'm saying their Mommys and Daddies should have taught them to exercise their rights in a more respectful manner.
There is a time and a place for such things, and the commencement ceremonies of your fellow students who may not share your opinions is not the time or the place.
They forced other people to be unwillingly involved in their temper tantrum.
There are other higher-ranked universities. Don't agree with Catholic beliefs? Don't go to Notre Dame if you're not willing to tolerate/accept them in exchange for receiving an education there.
I don't need to agree with everything an institution believes in order to appreciate its quality.
I'm sorry that you do.
Again, ND invited Barack Obama to speak at the 2009 commencement exercises.
The Catholic Church is pro-life (not pro-choice or pro-abortion) and forbids same-sex marriage. What about the Catholic Church holding those beliefs do you not understand?
I'm sorry you've misunderstood me. I know the Catholic Church's standing on these issues. What I don't get is why you have a hard time understanding that people may place a quality education above ideological differences, especially from an institution that embraces diversity of opinion and thought.
I'm not saying the little snots don't have a right to protest.
I'm saying their Mommys and Daddies should have taught them to exercise their rights in a more respectful manner.
There is a time and a place for such things, and the commencement ceremonies of your fellow students who may not share your opinions is not the time or the place.
They forced other people to be unwillingly involved in their temper tantrum.
I mean - that's a fair statement. And it's totally your right to disagree with what they're doing. And it's their right to do it.
America is a wonderful place.
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It's no secret that Notre Dame is a CATHOLIC university. If a student cannot tolerate/accept Catholic beliefs, they should not go there. Go to a secular private university or a state school, instead.
Honestly, going to a school that's a poor fit is like someone going to Juilliard and expecting to get a degree in electrical engineering.
I'm not saying the little snots don't have a right to protest.
I'm saying their Mommys and Daddies should have taught them to exercise their rights in a more respectful manner.
There is a time and a place for such things, and the commencement ceremonies of your fellow students who may not share your opinions is not the time or the place.
They forced other people to be unwillingly involved in their temper tantrum.
I don't need to agree with everything an institution believes in order to appreciate its quality.
That's how everyone should feel about it. But the students who walked out, didn't, citing specifically Pence's "bigotry." How did they not know that the Catholic Church forbids same sex marriage and is pro-life, not pro-choice or pro-abortion, and that they agreed to tolerate such beliefs by deliberately choosing to attend a Catholic university instead of a secular private university or state school?
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