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Old 05-20-2017, 06:43 PM
 
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What is the Russian interference in the elections actually about. I never heard of any Russian near a voting boot or calling people to vote for Trump. Neither did I see or hear if any Russian interference at any of Trumps rally's.

I did see that in our area in Florida which is the I-4 corridor and an important area, that Hillary hardly could get any crowd together to be enthusiastic for her.
I hope you're not really as naive as your post would imply. Clearly, if there was either major campaign funding from Russia, or a major promulgation of fake news, that could have enormous consequences.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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Is that a real post? The only interference you think would count is real, actual physical interference? This isn't the old days where that kind of stuff happened a lot in this country. But there are other more sophisticated means of interference that you can't see that are just as real.




Like what? Be specific on how this interference changed votes from Hillary to Trump

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Old 05-20-2017, 07:07 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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I have three pairs of boots. Does that mean I get to vote six times? Wheee!!!
I forgot to wear my voting boots and the KGB came after me.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:11 PM
 
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Here you go: Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections | wiki

"The United States government's intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections.[1][2][3]

In January 2017, a U.S. intelligence community assessment expressed "high confidence" that Russia favored Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to denigrate and harm Clinton's electoral chances and potential presidency.[4] The report concluded that Russia used disinformation, data thefts, and leaks to attempt to give an advantage to Trump over Clinton. These conclusions were reaffirmed by the lead intelligence officials in the Trump administration in May 2017.[5] Intelligence allies of the U.S. in Europe found communications between suspected Russian agents and the Trump campaign as early as 2015.[6]




I wonder if they used the DNC "influence campaign" methods.




Nah, I doubt it, we didn't buy it.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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I saw a KGB agent near my voting booth and I thanked him for his service.
I'm sure you think that remark is hilarious, comrade.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:19 PM
 
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Here you go: Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections | wiki

"The United States government's intelligence agencies have concluded the Russian government interfered in the 2016 United States elections.[1][2][3]

In January 2017, a U.S. intelligence community assessment expressed "high confidence" that Russia favored Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, and that Russian President Vladimir Putin personally ordered an "influence campaign" to denigrate and harm Clinton's electoral chances and potential presidency.[4] The report concluded that Russia used disinformation, data thefts, and leaks to attempt to give an advantage to Trump over Clinton. These conclusions were reaffirmed by the lead intelligence officials in the Trump administration in May 2017.[5] Intelligence allies of the U.S. in Europe found communications between suspected Russian agents and the Trump campaign as early as 2015.[6]
No point in repeating this, your post accurately describes the situation. In many ways this is far more concerning that if they have overtly changed votes or something like that. The Russians have always been masters of psychological warfare and propaganda, now with the Internet they are having a field day toying with the Western democracies.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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No point in repeating this, your post accurately describes the situation. In many ways this is far more concerning that if they have overtly changed votes or something like that. The Russians have always been masters of psychological warfare and propaganda, now with the Internet they are having a field day toying with the Western democracies.




So what are the "fake" stories about Hillary that cost her the election?
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Here and now.
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I saw a KGB agent near my voting booth and I thanked him for his service.
At long last, I think I get it. You're a secret lefty, coming on here and posting things to make the right look as bad as possible!

I think you may have overplayed your hand this time, but it's okay. Just whisper the truth in my ear. I'll never tell, I promise.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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Well, first and foremost, we would likely never have known to any degree had the FBI not spilled the beans.

While the hacking is documented, we are still wondering what the possible consequences were.

Again, though... It was the FBI who started this. I don't know what we'll find out (or even if we'll ever learn anything), but it wasn't Democrats or Hillary supporters or whoever else you wish to denigrate.

It was the FBI who shared this news and opened an investigation.
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Old 05-20-2017, 07:44 PM
 
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I hope you're not really as naive as your post would imply. Clearly, if there was either major campaign funding from Russia, or a major promulgation of fake news, that could have enormous consequences.
You are assuming that people who voted for Trump paid attention to news media......fake or otherwise.

Most people imo who voted for Trump, based their vote on the candidate himself and what they heard directly from his mouth.

I get that Liberals rely on the news media which spins them 6 different ways to Sunday, but those who voted for Trump listended to the candidate himself.
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