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Old 05-21-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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Trump supporters insist that it is Islam that is our enemy. Right?

Trump supporters agreed, and Trump became POTUS for much that reason...

Now where do we find Trump? "Apologizing" to Muslims like conservatives insisted Obama did with the Japanese?

"He will meet and have lunch with leaders of more than 50 Muslim countries, where he will deliver an inspiring, direct speech on the need to confront radical ideology and the president's hopes for a peaceful vision of Islam," McMaster said ahead of the visit.

So which is it?!? The hope of a peaceful vision of Islam, which means stop all the anti-Islamic rhetoric, or what?

Add the "US and Saudi Arabia signed agreements worth more than $380bn - almost a third of that military-related," and that's a whole lot of money and weaponry put in the hands of staunchly anti-democratic Islamic theocratic rulers. No matter. The Saudi kings are certainly happy. Trump too. Good for America?

Must be if Trump thinks so according to Trump supporters, Muslims or not. Right?

In any case, maybe Trump supporters should start thinking about how to win over more Muslims than the other way around. Was only a matter of time before even someone like Trump would get this better figured out...

Trump seeks to win over Muslims with Islam speech | Trump News | Al Jazeera
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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Once again, you lefty haters are disappointed Trump did an outstanding job representing the U.S. He was treated with respect and dignity and you hate that more than anything. He showed himself not only to be Presidential but treated his hosts with the same respect they showed him. He didn't need to bow down to them or degrade the United States in his speech.
What a horrible day for liberals this has been.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Dixie
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How many threads do we need on the same topic ?
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Pixley
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Regarding "flip-flops", I recall seeing an interview whereby President Trump was asked what his best qualities are, and he said that he listens and that he's flexible.
Given that he's brand new to politics and foreign policy, he is constantly listening (as you do when you are new) and he's showing his flexibility by reacting to the latest developments.
If you criticize that.....very strange thing to criticize.
Do not even trot this line out.

Trump said "I alone can fix it". He did not say he needed time to learn the system or be flexible. The system is broken and he alone was going to fix it because only he knew how.

Trump did not need a learning period, remember? I thought that was the whole point. Drain the swamp, break the system and all that.

Now he needs a learning period because he's not a politician?

So in 2008, the Right claimed we would have needed to go through a learning period we could not afford when Obama became president because he had no experience, I don't remember Obama needing one though.

But now it's OK for the president to learn on the job. Got it.

You do Trump is setting all kinds of precedents that you will be against when a Democrat tries to do the same exact things, right?
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:41 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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How many threads do we need on the same topic ?

I give up, how many will it take until Trumpies admit what hypocrites they're being in suddenly embracing the Muslims! they've been telling us were the scourge of the earth for so long?
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:42 AM
 
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Once again, you lefty haters are disappointed Trump did an outstanding job representing the U.S. He was treated with respect and dignity and you hate that more than anything. He showed himself not only to be Presidential but treated his hosts with the same respect they showed him. He didn't need to bow down to them or degrade the United States in his speech.
What a horrible day for liberals this has been.
Yeah its interesting isn't it, they actually wanted President Trump to hurt the United States.
If these posters are Liberals, that would indicate that Liberals are anti-American and want to harm America.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Do not even trot this line out.

Trump said "I alone can fix it". He did not say he needed time to learn the system or be flexible. The system is broken and he alone was going to fix it because only he knew how.

Trump did not need a learning period, remember? I thought that was the whole point. Drain the swamp, break the system and all that.

Now he needs a learning period because he's not a politician?

So in 2008, the Right claimed we would have needed to go through when Obama became president because he had no experience, I don't remember Obama needing one though.

But now it's OK for the president to learn on the job. Got it.

You do Trump is setting all kinds of precedents that you will be against when a Democrat tries to do the same exact things, right?
He's not having a learning period, as you can see by his first trip as President, he's doing a brilliant job.
I never said anything about a learning period, I said he is 'brand new to politics and foreign policy' and that he said his 2 best qualities are his listening skills and his flexibility.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:46 AM
 
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Regarding "flip-flops", I recall seeing an interview whereby President Trump was asked what his best qualities are, and he said that he listens and that he's flexible.
Given that he's brand new to politics and foreign policy, he is constantly listening (as you do when you are new) and he's showing his flexibility by reacting to the latest developments.
If you criticize that.....very strange thing to criticize.
No one is criticizing him "learning", its only pointing out, that he was adamant in his attacks on Obama for the same things he is "now" learning that is part of being a President and learning what he can and cannot say and learning how to speak on a world stage. Now, this is only one speech, that he read from a Teleprompters, as long as he does not go blabbing and tweeting, and destroy the delivered speech.

Obama tried to tell him, this job will humble a man... and he was attacked for even trying to give Trump a tid bit of such wisdom.

Republican should be learning from all this, that "Bully Talk" an "belligerence" is not strength, Strength is found in the ability to be with "temperance". And Presidential Power is to be found in the strength of Diplomacy, not condemning and attacking and making belligerent statements about other nations.

Trump has had to walk back all that belligerence he pushed campaigning, and Republican should be learning, that chasing and being in love with belligerence is not how you choose a President.

Everything Trump Criticized about Obama for 8 yrs, he is finding out every day, that he was wrong!!!! but he just will never admit it, so he has to suffer the results of being seen as a flip flopper. IF he had the sensibilities to get up and Tell the American people, that he was wrong in his condemnation of the previous President, and Tell the people, that he comes to better understand he has to build upon the legacy of his Predecessor, not try and tear down the works of his Predecessor... He may find, more broad support because he will stop doing the crazy stuff of trying to erase Obama and all the Previous Presidents works.

Now, is he man enough to do that? That's the big question? It is likely that his ego is far too big for him to do so. so, the result will continue to be... seen as a flip flop'er. Trump has a choice to make, in such... if he expects to gain any sense of legitimacy to his administration.

Time will bring him to dismiss his daughter and his Son in Law, as that will be an albatross, for the extent of his term. His daughter and son in law has no business in this Administration. Time will unfold that awareness as well.

At some point in the near future... the financial mess of Trump Business will become front and center stage, and it will be very costly to him as an individual and as president. He may well not survive those revelations. I foresee money laundering will become something he can't escape and that will lead to tax evasion... when it comes to the financial elements of not just Trump, but his daughter and Son in Law as well as his sons.
Then there is the matter of "Russia"... which will not go away, and it will reveal the long list of his appointees in a massive collusive mess that will be not only about treasonous stuff, but about money as well.

The gathering today, heard the message, but they have many many questions underlying what they heard. Now, they will do a "wait and see". Trump failed to mention "the African Nations and the elements of Terrorism", which cannot be separated from the discussion with Arab Nations when on is discussing Terrorism. This conversation will need to expand, to deal with the Global system of nation, as to what is and how to fight Terrorism, which extend to Europe, Asian Nations and one has to watch the Nordic Regions to make sure to monitor how money flows to many parts of the world, not to exclude China, because it too has terrorism within its borders. It has to look at Offshore Accounts, which means even the Cayman Islands become critical as well. Then .... it has to consider what is Russian's money machine and how does it play into the flow of money around the world.

It's a very big picture.... that is Global.

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Old 05-21-2017, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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Once again, you lefty haters are disappointed Trump did an outstanding job representing the U.S. He was treated with respect and dignity and you hate that more than anything. He showed himself not only to be Presidential but treated his hosts with the same respect they showed him. He didn't need to bow down to them or degrade the United States in his speech.
What a horrible day for liberals this has been.
What a disappointment to Trump's supporters, he totally sold out, flip-flopped, and betrayed them.
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Old 05-21-2017, 10:47 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Once again, you lefty haters are disappointed Trump did an outstanding job representing the U.S. He was treated with respect and dignity and you hate that more than anything. He showed himself not only to be Presidential but treated his hosts with the same respect they showed him. He didn't need to bow down to them or degrade the United States in his speech.
What a horrible day for liberals this has been.
I'm disappointed - but not surprised - that conservatives don't stand for anything.

You said Islam was the scourge of the earth. Now you're embracing it.
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