Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Family is not always equipped or able to tend to those who need round the clock care. It can be physically and financially devastating to a family. If you've ever tried to lift a demented 80 year old man onto and off of a toilet 10 times a day you would know this. Trying to care for my grandfather at home is what ended up killing my grandmother.
What part of not being physically able to care for a bedridden or demented relative who may live 20 years past his diagnosis of Alzheimer's disease continues to elude you?
Damn right. I went through this, took care of not one, but two elderly parents who needed constant care. Had to quit a job to do it. And what do I hear from POS's who don't get it? "Why don't you work?"
I need to shut up now, before I say something that gets me banned forever.
Translation: We should rely on government, not family.
I'll make you a deal. I'll quit relying on the government when large corporations quit relying on the government. So much for your bumper sticker slogan.
No, you're right. I probably would have been forced to endanger the lives of both of my children as well as my grandfather by attempting the impossible. And I probably would have failed, because, as I said, it would have been impossible.
So that's your solution?
You realize that women with small children use to and still do also take care of elderly family members in the home. While very challenging it is not impossible or life threatening. There are also many agencies that will send working into homes to help care for the elderly.
Yep. Thats exactly what will happen. People will be dying in the streets left and right. Just like all the people who died from neglect when Trump cut funding to block grant monies that helped fund local Meals on Wheels program.
I can hear the bell ringers now----Bring out your dead!
You miss my point. There is no use in comparing health care and its cost today with health care and its cost in 1920. There are many lifesaving treatments available today that were not around then. Unfortunately, they cost money. In any case, I wasn't speaking only of the elderly, I was addressing the absurdity of comparing the cost of health care now with the cost of health care 100 years ago. But if you really want to go there, there are lots of elderly and chronically ill people alive today who would have died back then, because the cures simply didn't exist. Now they do, but they can't be paid for with pocket change or a dozen eggs.
And you feel everyone is entitled for "free" to whatever expensive procedures, treatments and medications that are available to keep them going.
Do you ever ponder that perhaps it might not be the best thing to keep some people artificially alive for years beyond their natural life span. We house the elderly, often in basically vegetative states, in nursing homes for years. They lay there eating mush, sometimes not even eating, having to have their diapers changed and bathed by strangers, pumped full of anti-depressants waiting for familiar family members to come visit.
I'll make you a deal. I'll quit relying on the government when large corporations quit relying on the government. So much for your bumper sticker slogan.
News flash. Large corporations pay in much more than they receive.
And you feel everyone is entitled for "free" to whatever expensive procedures, treatments and medications that are available to keep them going.
Do you ever ponder that perhaps it might not be the best thing to keep some people artificially alive for years beyond their natural life span. We house the elderly, often in basically vegetative states, in nursing homes for years. They lay there eating mush, sometimes not even eating, having to have their diapers changed and bathed by strangers, pumped full of anti-depressants waiting for familiar family members to come visit.
I am not talking about that kind of extreme effort to prolong death. I am talking about people who can be restored to health, or whose quality of life can be improved with modern medicine.
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
