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Originally Posted by pknopp
I am pro-life. I fully support the 2nd Amendment. I believe we need a balanced budget amendment. Am I a liberal?
Killing people by the thousands and wasting trillions of our wealth has done what?
The biggest problem with Islam is that it teaches violent responses to those who are non-believers or do not hold to it.
You need to understand Islam first before you can claim so about Islam.
Islam does not teach us violence against all non-believers or those who do not hold to it. A response is not the first act but response to someone else's action. Islam does not teach violence in response to peace.
If non-believers or non-Muslims wish to live in peace with me then Islam teaches me to live in peace with that non-believer or non-Muslim (the Qur'an 8:61).
[60.8] Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
[60.9] Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.
Islam teaches friendship with peaceful people of any religion or of no religion. Violent response is response to violence from the others first. This is to stop the violence in the first instance. Islam does not teach initiating violence or else there would have been no non-believers living with Muslims anywhere in the world today.
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Originally Posted by NxtGen
I challenge you to find where Christianity authorizes such.
Crusades were by the Christians. Bush told the whole world that his God authorized violent attack on Iraq. The whole Christianity began with crucifixion and killing of an innocent man. There would have been no Christianity today without killing of that innocent man.
Just this last days we had a young Muslim in Tampa killing 2 roommates and now the Manchester horror!
Now , now. This has nothing to do with Islam...these were just instances of workplace violence, someone losing their mind or just an extremist. Remember , we can't judge a whole group over the actions of a few. That can only be done to firearms owners and Trump supporters.
He was a neo-nazi, converting to Islam, lol wtf? Tying him to this as a Muslim terror attack is a stretch. More like mentally ill kid.The desire for power and acceptance can make people do crazy things.
You do KNOW that in reality, Nazism and Islam are best buddies. Hitler admired Islam for its strength and the Grand Mufti is thought to be one of the architects/inspirations for Hitler's "final solution."
Also, understand the difference between being OF a religion and committing a crime and that of committing a crime DUE TO that religion.
The kid in the story he mentioned killed his roommates DUE TO his religion.
The biggest problem with Islam is that it teaches violent responses to those who are non-believers or do not hold to it. I challenge you to find where Christianity authorizes such.
The Tampa kid was a neo Nazi, as were his roommates. They revered Mc Veigh and had bomb making material in their unit. The 18 year old was reportedly a recent convert to Islam and reportedly believed 2 of his roommates were disrespecting Islam so he executed them.
The kid was a whack job who was likely going to blow, regardless of his conversion. Very different situation in Manchester.
We kill them and it's for freedom, and mom, and all that is good. They retaliate and it's "terrorism".
The British accused us of the same thing in the Revolutionary War. "But they hide behind tree's".
Is it your contention that "we" deliberately target citizens and children? If you see no difference than I suspect you also don't believe in concepts such as "manslaughter" vs. "first degree murder."
What's your excuse, btw, for the fact that an infinitely larger number of terror attacks are committed across the MUSLIM world, against MUSLIMS?
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