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Old 05-24-2017, 12:35 AM
 
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Of course I realize it's to late to do anything about it now, and of course diversity is promoted as the best thing since Jesus Christ, but honestly, if all countries were homogeneous wouldn't the end result being a more peaceful world? Like it or not, humans are inherently tribalist, it is in our DNA and always has been and always will be. The more differences there are between people the more conflict. If you look at the world, no matter where it may be, the more races/religions/languages/cultures there are ends up disproportionately relating to just how peaceful/united people are.

You look at something like Japan where, it's about as homogeneous as can be. Can you not say it being one of the most crime-free, healthiest, and overall most successful countries has nothing to do with it? Look at Europe, the more diverse it has become the worse it has gotten. As far as the U.S is concerned, I know people will respond with "But the U.S has always been a nation of immigrants", true, but of the European kind. Which, while technically diverse, is far different than those otherwise. When the founding fathers created this nation do you think they honestly thought by immigrants it would be hundreds of thousands/millions from Africa, Middle East, Asia etc.? And for those that would say they love diversity, well, if you really feel like you need it, isn't that what planes and boats are for? Instead of importing different people into your country wouldn't it make more sense to go to others yourself?

Sure I'll get lots of flack for this but if we look deep-down on our nature as humans isn't it the truth?

 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:56 AM
 
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How did the world end up so diversified? We all came from Adam and Eve. Then after the great flood Noah repopulated the world. Everyone else was killed off.

From a biological perspective diversity is survival. From the same perspective our pain and suffering and day-to-day tribulations are utterly insignificant.

When we are done destroying ourselves, the cycle can begin again. Meanwhile we seem bent on making it as miserable as possible for each other.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 12:57 AM
 
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I'll keep it simple: no, it wouldn't ideal.

While tribalism in the form of "us" vs. "them" is baked into us at a basic level, our brains are also easy to manipulate. Defining who the "us" is not just based on skin color or religion. We have the power to change that definition and to make it as broad as possible. Ideally, you can make it broad enough to the point of there really being no one in your "them" column.

If you grow up around people different than you, this becomes normal and they are a part of your "us".

As someone that lives in a very diverse area of the US, I can tell you that it works well - very well. The bigger issue is socioeconomic diversity, and getting that to work well.


At the end of the day, we live in a country open to anyone from any background. And that is a beautiful thing. And I'm willing to fight to preserve that... because without that basic principle defining our country, we wouldn't be America.


Also, side note: diversity is a good thing from an evolutionary perspective.

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Old 05-24-2017, 01:07 AM
 
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OP what drugs are you taking? japan invaded china and most of mongolia, and southeast asia during world war two, and they were the aggressors. china invaded tibet and still claims it as a province of china, and they were the aggressors. germany invaded poland and france, as well as russia, in both world war one and two, and again they were again the aggressors. and these countries at the time were homogeneous. is that what you really want? constant tribal war with one tribe basically trying to enslave or eradicate another?

your idea is a recipe for constant war. not that things are not much better now though.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 01:15 AM
 
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No, it wouldn't be ideal.

The world needs less tribalism, not more.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 01:41 AM
 
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The OP is correct and I'm a little surprised more people aren't in agreement. Of course, its far easier to virtue signal the flags of diversity and claim some imaginary moral highground than it is to speak cold hard truths that make people uncomfortable.

People ARE tribal by nature. To try and fight that fact is playing with fire, better to accept it as who we are and to do a better job of basing our societies around that truth rather than to continue to preach the whole "diversity is our strength" mantra. Diversity is more often a source of conflict and division than a "strength". Wherever there is conflict around the world, its often because of peoples of different races and religions occupying a piece of land too closely to each other.

People tend to self segregate on their own. Creating majority neighborhoods of one race or another. Or even at a school lunch table. Humans tend to prefer to be around people with many similarities to themselves, and while race or culture is certainly not the only factor, its one of the largest factors.

Its interesting to note the unspoken rule of thumb regarding mostly racially homogenous other places in tbe world. Asia? Well thats mainly for Asians. Sub Saharan Africa? Land of the blacks. Indian sub continent? Indians. And so forth. But Europe and the US/Canada is for whites? Oh no!!! Those places are for EVERYONE!!
 
Old 05-24-2017, 01:47 AM
 
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DIVERSITY IS NOT THE ISSUE.

:-:-: POLITICS BOILED DOWN TO PREDATOR V. PREY :-:-:
❏ If you’re living off the labors and property of another, taken without their consent, you’re the predator.
❏ If you’re a productive person generating a surplus of usable goods and services, you’re their prey.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:02 AM
 
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If we were all the same and working in lockstep the world would be more peaceful.

If humans lacked aggression the world would be more peaceful.

just look at lemmings and rabbits!

There is a reason that humans are at the top of the food chain and not being picked off cluelessly like herbivores.

Everything comes with a price.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:04 AM
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jetgraphics View Post
DIVERSITY IS NOT THE ISSUE.

:-:-: POLITICS BOILED DOWN TO PREDATOR V. PREY :-:-:
❏ If you’re living off the labors and property of another, taken without their consent, you’re the predator.
❏ If you’re a productive person generating a surplus of usable goods and services, you’re their prey.
And what, pray tell, has that got to do with the topic of diversity?

Anyway, I think people should be encouraged to assimilate more than they do. We aren't as diverse as we think we are. This was supposed to be a melting pot...well, let's keep on melting. Let's downplay our differences. The more we hang onto whatever makes us different, the harder it is to be a unified country. The Japanese succeed because they emphasive conformity.
 
Old 05-24-2017, 02:14 AM
 
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No. They'll just find another way to divide.

Just look at Hindu Indians and their caste systems. Or colourism in general.

Or, in western countries, social class.
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