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Old 05-25-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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But wait! there's more...
NOOOOO.... this can not possibly be true. This is a joke. I know it should be clear whether it is or not but who knows anymore!

 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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"parse". What a douche, beta word.
Lol.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...
NY's finest? When did Trump become a cop?

I'm sorry you've had no interaction with real leaders. Bullying =/= leadership.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:26 AM
 
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...
You can be assertive and such without being a true bully. Bleh. It's also the definition of "all men must do X to be considered masculine" that is toxic.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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NOOOOO.... this can not possibly be true. This is a joke. I know it should be clear whether it is or not but who knows anymore!
Well, Trump has the hands of a 10-year-old kid, so yeah it's "fake news" lol.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...

'Top grad'? Of what?

It wasn't Wharton:

The Daily Pennsylvanian | Was Trump really a top student at Wharton? His classmates say not so much
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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You're being unreasonable, and paranoid. I see nothing edited about that video.

The President was displaying childish behavior, and you simply don't appear to believe that could happen, so you are grasping at anything to explain it other than childish behavior. The simplest and most likely explanation is not an edited tape pushed by a global media conspiracy, it's that it was childish behavior.
Re: clip of Trump trying to hold hands with the Pope

It's from the Jimmy Kimmel show.

Very clever and timely given Melania recently swatted Trump's hand away.

Re: Trump pushing aside the guy to be front and center..... It's real and playing all over the world.
What we don't know is if he was asked to step forward for a photo op or just decided he wanted to be front and center.
If the former, he could have handled it better. If the latter..... It is what it is.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...

He wasn't being assertive. He has NO MANNERS at ALL.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Here and now.
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...
No. That is not leadership. Bullies are nothing but COWARDS.
 
Old 05-25-2017, 11:30 AM
 
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In short, it's an intrinsic factor. He has been like this his entire life- a bully. You don't become top grad, top sportsman, and NY's finest by being passive. Life doesn't work that way. You want the top, you are going to have to bully your way over a few people.

However, are society has come to the point where it undermines masculinity and individual success. Instead, we have safe spaces and toxic masculinity classes in colleges...
you are wrong.

and here is why. Trump is not on a football field and he is not with enemies. Trump was in fact with allies and pushed a brand new one who was being WELCOMED to NATO out of his way to get a photo that does not matter at all.

The guy he pushed is the leader of a nation, and the poeple of that nation will not be pleased to see trump being so rude.

Why does it matter? Trump just spent goodwill which is real and limited, and he got nothing for it. It would a fool move, and one of many that has lessened our standing and our power in the world.

If you think it does not matter you simply have no idea what really drives business. How people view your nation makes a massive difference when you are an american company trying to a deal to build a dam etc.

put two and two together.
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