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Old 05-26-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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BO divider and thief.

The would be trump,clown in chief.
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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I think you hit the nail on the head. In this day of partisan divisiveness, people have very strong feelings. Many, not all people probably think he's either the best or the worse. I'd say the folks in the middle are dwindling.

Apply this to Obama and/or Trump for sure, and probably any President we have in the future.

I have my own personal feelings for Obama and Trump, but my comments are more generalized, and apply to both.
- Obama was the worst.
- Bush 2 was the second worst.
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. (pretty large gap)
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- then Harding.
- then Carter.

So two Dems and two GOP. All four incompetent. NOT Partisan.


- Bush was probably a good guy to split a plate nachos and have a glass of ice tea with. (but screwed the pooch with Iraq). His wife was a class act.
- Carter was always a real gentlemen. (if incompetent). & he liked Waylon Jennings.
- Harding was a crook, a womanizer, and a crappy president. (2 of the 3 made him number three on my list)
- Obama was a socialist, an economic traitor, a Jihadist sympathizer, a loyal parishioner in an American hating/White hating church, who breathtakingly took only 8 years to pile on as much debt as the other 44 other Presidents combined (over 225 years). He had a decent jump shot though.
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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When Obama destroyed McCain and Caribou Barbie in the 2008 election I put the blunders of the Bush/ Darth Vader administration behind me. OP, your venom continues. Where was this poll that you quote taken, the city of Butt Shag in some red state?
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:27 PM
 
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33% say he is the worst post-WWII president, 8% say he is the best = -25%.

Bush was at -27%. No one else is anywhere near that. Nixon is 3rd worst at -12%.

Trump will be able to give Obama and W. Bush a run for their money if he keeps up his track record.


Obama not being able to end Bush's wars after 8 years, bombing double the countries of Bush, government spying, and record Trickle Down economics (QE) all had a major impact on his presidency. There were so many Bush policies that he supposedly opposed, but then did once in office. Both destabilized the Arab world further. Obama then armed every moderate rebel he could find - too bad it is was usually ISIS or similar terrorists. Massive debts. Etc...

There are a lot of striking similarities between the policies of Obama and W. Bush.
How do those results look today? What is the point of showing data from 2014 to answer a question of how Obama will be remembered in history?

I have a hard time believing that a president who left the WH with an approval rating of ~59-60% (Gallup) could be considered the "worst president in history".

Also, look at where his approval rating was in 2014 vs. where it ended up. Yeah, VERY flawed to use this kind of data. But, of course, I know the reason this was dug up...



I also question your method of using "best - worst" ratios to assess standing in history. Plenty of people that didn't vote him "best" or "worst" might have had him high/lower in those rankings.

A ratio, of sorts, could be useful, but you don't take "best vs. worst" - you compare all of the ranking information across all presidents. This is assuming that people ranked all of the presidents in order...if they didn't, this data is definitely useless.

Either way, without access to all of the data, that type of comparison is hard to perform.

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Old 05-26-2017, 01:36 PM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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Quinnipiac is one of the best polls.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/theov...nton/11985837/
See, this is the problem with living in Russia. Apparently their micro-wave relay towers are so slowed by the Siberian cold, that the Internet arrives to your computer three years behind schedule. Your link was published in 2014. Hello? Who cares about 2014? You, I guess. This is why no one can ever take you cons seriously. Maybe you should content yourself with writing letters to the editor of Pravda rather than making posts that are years out of date here.

Just saying...
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:47 PM
 
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See, this is the problem with living in Russia. Apparently their micro-wave relay towers are so slowed by the Siberian cold, that the Internet arrives to your computer three years behind schedule. Your link was published in 2014. Hello? Who cares about 2014? You, I guess. This is why no one can ever take you cons seriously. Maybe you should content yourself with writing letters to the editor of Pravda rather than making posts that are years out of date here.

Just saying...
Obama approval rating June 24 - 30, 2014 (when the survey was conducted*): ~40% - 43%

Obama approval rating upon leaving the WH: 59%

source: Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval | Gallup


Gee - I wonder how this could possibly be seen as a misleading piece of information to use now?



* https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=2056
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From June 24 - 30, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,446 registered voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 2.6 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:14 PM
 
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Gee, can't hardly wait for them to do another poll so that we have up to date data. Be interesting to see who is now the worst prez since...
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:18 PM
 
Location: My House
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He's by far the worst in my lifetime. I still can't believe people voted for him over Romney. The first time I can somewhat understand.

Those idiots who gave Obama a second term also guaranteed a Trump win.
How on Earth did you type that without breaking into hysterical laughter?

Romney lost because of his binders full of women and the tendency for people not to vote out a President who isn't really messing up.

If this election had been a Trump vs. Obama thing and this was Obama's 2nd term, we'd still have President Obama in office, too.

Now, if Romney had run this time vs. Trump and Trump won the primaries, I'd be right there with you, shaking my head.

Trump is a simpleton.

Romney was entirely qualified and I really would not have been upset if he had won in 2012 and I did like Obama.

So, yeah... some of us are not partisan.

We're just LOGICAL.
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Old 05-26-2017, 02:19 PM
 
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Gee, can't hardly wait for them to do another poll so that we have up to date data. Be interesting to see who is now the worst prez since...
Oh, we do not need a poll for that.

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Old 05-26-2017, 02:23 PM
 
Location: My House
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- Obama was the worst.
- Bush 2 was the second worst.
.
. (pretty large gap)
.
.
- then Harding.
- then Carter.

So two Dems and two GOP. All four incompetent. NOT Partisan.


- Bush was probably a good guy to split a plate nachos and have a glass of ice tea with. (but screwed the pooch with Iraq). His wife was a class act.
- Carter was always a real gentlemen. (if incompetent). & he liked Waylon Jennings.
- Harding was a crook, a womanizer, and a crappy president. (2 of the 3 made him number three on my list)
- Obama was a socialist, an economic traitor, a Jihadist sympathizer, a loyal parishioner in an American hating/White hating church, who breathtakingly took only 8 years to pile on as much debt as the other 44 other Presidents combined (over 225 years). He had a decent jump shot though.
You probably ought to check your facts on Obama. That sounds like Breitbart talking points instead of actual data. Except that part about his jump shot. That's on record.

And, really? Junior wasn't a terrible president. He just had a lousy VP and some questionable advisors. We tend to blame wars on presidents, but unless they're doing the Trump thing and out threatening other countries like lunatic despots, those wars are things that are decided by military advisors, not presidents.

I like Junior, and not because I want to drink a beer with him. Though, I would. I also like Laura, even though she committed vehicular manslaughter.
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