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Old 05-26-2017, 06:51 AM
 
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Well a scam artist relies on their ability to foster "faith" in their audience that they are on the up and up and are telling people the truth... and religion relies on its ability to foster "faith" in it's audience that it is on the up and up and is the the truth... what possible reason could there be for there always having been such a gravitation of scam artists to religion? Hmmmm

Wait a second here...

Scam Artist - Results that either don't exist or aren't what they say they are. Relies on psychologically manipulating people into believing them on faith. Loose or antagonistic relationship with the truth. Preys on vulnerable demographics - kids, old people, etc.

Religion - Results that either don't exist or aren't what they say they are. Relies on psychologically manipulating people into believing them on faith. Loose or antagonistic relationship with the truth. Preys on vulnerable demographics - kids, old people, etc.

OH MY GOD, CLARK KENT IS SUPERMAN! SUPERMAN IS CLARK KENT! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

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Old 05-26-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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Religion and govt., two institutions people put blind faith into for solving their everyday problems. Both are full of charlatans, but at least you can avoid the preachers, politicians not so much.


How screwed up we would be if Religion and Government were merge.? Oh wait there seems to be a bunch of people who would like that.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The point is he takes no salary from his church. His income is all royalties. His books are in pretty much every church book shop and christian book store. People seem to think he is skimming the collection plate. He has quite a few people in our church that buy every book he writes when it comes out. I dont buy his stuff. shrug.

Up until 2005 he was taking a $200,000.00 annual salary from the church and he lives in a $10.5M estate. And how much free advertising for his books does he get from the tax free church every year which shouldn't be a commercial enterprise.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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Here we go again. Another day, another pastor robbing people of their hard earned money.

Sadly, it's a black church where the people surely can't afford this kind of financial drubbing. They'll never bounce back. But of course, he says that he'll do his best to pay restitution.

How could these people be so gullible as to fall for this crap??

St. Louis Pastor Mark Q. Stafford Busted for $1 Million Scam | News Blog
I always find it odd how racism is accepted when it is a positive application.

Why do you assume that if it is a black church, the people are far more poor than if it were a white church, or any other?

Do you not realize that all races can be poor? There are many churches where it isn't a "black church" and the people aren't well off, and there are black churches where the congregation is not poor.

So why the racist labeling?

Also, you are asking how people could be so "gullible"? You do realize that pastors and the churches operate off their congregations donations right? That this is common among most churches out there? You do realize people give money to the church for not only the sake of that, but also for programs that the church does such as charity and the like?

So what is it you find gullible? Giving money for the sake of spreading the word of Christ and helping those in need?

Sounds like your post was more about promoting your racist opinion and denouncing Christianity.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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You guys should look up Peter Popoff.
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Old 05-26-2017, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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You guys should look up Peter Popoff.
"Miracle spring water" from the televangelist, yes.

Many people might be conned by charismatic Youtube celebrities asking their subscribers to fund their "research" or "projects" or they might fall for internet websites that tell them to give personal information, but it takes something more to be conned by someone selling "miracle spring water."

https://youtu.be/GGuawSq6zDA
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Old 05-26-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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These "pastors", black or white, are a dime a dozen. People fall for it because they give them hope. It makes me sick. Turn on the TV to random channels in the middle of the night and you'll see these predators asking for $$$ for "Boaz anointings", selling "holy waters", etc...on and on.
This. Oh my god THIS.

It makes me sick to my stomach.
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Old 05-26-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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This. Oh my god THIS.

It makes me sick to my stomach.
You see the same stuff from the alternative medicine crowd touting cure-alls and other healing fakery.
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Old 05-26-2017, 11:12 AM
 
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Well a scam artist relies on their ability to foster "faith" in their audience that they are on the up and up and are telling people the truth... and religion relies on its ability to foster "faith" in it's audience that it is on the up and up and is the the truth... what possible reason could there be for there always having been such a gravitation of scam artists to religion? Hmmmm

Wait a second here...

Scam Artist - Results that either don't exist or aren't what they say they are. Relies on psychologically manipulating people into believing them on faith. Loose or antagonistic relationship with the truth. Preys on vulnerable demographics - kids, old people, etc.

Religion - Results that either don't exist or aren't what they say they are. Relies on psychologically manipulating people into believing them on faith. Loose or antagonistic relationship with the truth. Preys on vulnerable demographics - kids, old people, etc.

OH MY GOD, CLARK KENT IS SUPERMAN! SUPERMAN IS CLARK KENT! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!
Condemnation of a much larger group based upon the bad actions of a few is the same tactic the stormfronters use
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Old 05-26-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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You see the same stuff from the alternative medicine crowd touting cure-alls and other healing fakery.
Yep. It's unfortunate.
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