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Old 05-28-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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America would do far better by reducing the expenses that drive the cost of living up for all. These high COL expenses are particularly punishing for low income workers, the very people that democrats claim they are trying to help.

Reduce the cost associated with healthcare, the number 1 cause of bankruptcy in America. Democrats did quite the opposite, highlighting the fact that they are incompetent and entirely out of touch.

In general though, when you hear the government announcing that they are here to help, it is time to run.
This, this, this.

Remove illegal aliens from this country. Give jobs to Americans first over H1B Visa holders. Visa holders should be a last resort not a first resort.

Get rid of "Federal minimum wage" and move the choice back to the states...or if you're really concerned, get rid of min wage altogether and watch what happens. Some will try to pay low...they will fold and suffer for their own greed. Stop regulating the garbage out of companies. Allow businesses to flourish without punishing them since they do supply you jobs. The more they flourish, the more you get paid. The more people who can work there. The more benefits you might get. Punish them with regulations and force them to pay ridiculous amounts of money to everyone, watch your hours get cut, watch your benefits get cut, watch them fold and you lose your job.

The government is rarely ever helpful. The government causes more problems, not less.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The current minimum wage in Arizona is $10, not $15. It was $8.

There was nothing said or implied in the article that supported your Fake News headline that employment had "surged". It only said the ruling had allowed the pay raise to go through.

Fail.
It is a graduated raise, that will be $12/hr in 2020. And I actually live here and see that no one in the grander sense is losing hours or losing their jobs. Our job market is great right now
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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The current minimum wage in Arizona is $10, not $15. It was $8.
Same arguments were used against the AZ minimum wage. Nothing changes. Its always the same arguments. You see, the people who come up with these arguments (right wing think tanks funded by the ruling class) dont WANT ANY minimum wage.

We had $11 an hour in 1969 adjusted for inflation.

We can have $15 in 2024 (which is what is being proposed).

Stop the scare mongering.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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That's not true.

My fiance works two part time jobs at minimum while in school right now, and our minimum wage just went up from $8.05/hr to $10/hr and she still gets the same amount of hours as she did last year
Well that's a $2.00 increase not a $7.00 increase which would likely result in less hours.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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This, this, this.
It's never going to happen.

Ask yourself this question. Do you want a couple of 30 story apartment towers going up down the street from you? If you said no, then that's why the COL is never going to go down
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Well that's a $2.00 increase not a $7.00 increase which would likely result in less hours.
An increase to $15 will be graduated, not overnight. Our jump from $8.05-$10 was step one of a 4 step graduated increase. It goes up to $11 in January, $11.50 in Jan 19, and $12 in Jan 2020
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
The current minimum wage in Arizona is $10, not $15. It was $8.

There was nothing said or implied in the article that supported your Fake News headline that employment had "surged". It only said the ruling had allowed the pay raise to go through.

Fail.
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the number of people working in bars and restaurants last month not only increased but did so at a rate six times higher than the economy as a whole. Employers who run food-service and drinking establishments added 7,800 new workers compared with February, a 3.3 percent boost.

By contrast, month-over-month employment in the private sector for the entire state grew just 0.5 percent.
Employment at Arizona restaurants, bars surges after minimum-wage increase | Tucson Business News | tucson.com
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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Well that's a $2.00 increase not a $7.00 increase which would likely result in less hours.
We're talking about 2024 here. You do understand that right?
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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.50 cents a year increase isn't a large enough increase since it hasn't been raised like it should have been for 30 years. I'd say a dollar per hour increase, per year, at the minimum. That's every state until it reaches 12$/hr or so. Iff the states want to squabble on the maximum it should be that's an option.
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Old 05-28-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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I love these posts that try and make it look like raising the minimum wage creates demand for new employees and that consumers don't care about price increases. socialist nirvana. another view that they won't share with us:

Would also like to learn if there is now some kind of new reporting feature built into this new law - probably is.
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