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Old 05-29-2017, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Wellll maybe if the local police departments were allowed to work with ICE and not told to turn a blind eye to a law breaker that also happens to be an illegal alien by their wanna feel good PC superiors then ICE would be so busy that they would not have to hassle citizens.


What the "illegal immigration nuts" want is for our Government to enforce the laws that we have and to deport people that have either over stayed their visas or snuck in through the porous border. We only want to be safe and not have to pay for the welfare, healthcare and damage that is done by illegal aliens. They cut the line and they are a real slap in the face to the people who followed the rules and immigrated lawfully. It is really pretty basic.
the Sheriff is charged with delaying her release so ICE could get there. It would also appear that holding her overnight was a false arrest based on a 10 year old warrant for failing to appear as a witness. What is it they knew the next morning they did not know the night before?

I would think the ICE behavior completely unacceptable and someone should certainly be disciplined. She had no requirement whatsoever to prove her citizenship so they were utterly criminal in their behavior.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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so she was initially arrested on a LEGAL bench warrant for failure to appear in court, and ICE got a hold of her fingerprints and ran her through the system, and had questions about her legality in this country. and she was detained for a day and released when proof of citizenship was provided. i dont see a problem here. its possible that she was a victim of identity theft, and that is not ICEs problem, but rather hers.

ICE was going only on information they had at the tim.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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"If you are American, where are your papers?" That was ICE's question after arresting a Hispanic citizen - Univision

So I guess this is what the illegal immigration nuts wanted. Now you have American citizens being arrested by ICE!
ICE arrests Americans all the time.

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Based on the article, almost 700 american citizens have been jailed from 2007-2016 and that is illegal.
No, it's not.
You are uninformed.

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She even showed them her driver's license and she was told that it was not enough
That's California's doing. Take it up with them.
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The only way she was released was when a relative brought her passport, but what is she didn't have one? What then?
If you are naturalized, then you will have the document to prove it; that's how she got the passport.
It's a new era; if you are in the country legally, you should be able to prove it. Doesn't matter how long you have been here.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Kelly is the WRONG guy for DHS Secy. He is a strong-man (why Donnie likes him)....he is too militaristic. His goons have been given the impression from Kelly that they are above the law.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:35 PM
 
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[url=http://www.univision.com/univision-news/immigration/if-you-are-american-where-are-your-papers-that-was-ices-question-after-arresting-a-hispanic-citizen]"If you are American, where are your papers?" That was ICE's question after arresting a Hispanic citizen - Univision[/url]

So I guess this is what the illegal immigration nuts wanted. Now you have American citizens being arrested by ICE! Based on the article, almost 700 american citizens have been jailed from 2007-2016 and that is illegal. She even showed them her driver's license and she was told that it was not enough.

The only way she was released was when a relative brought her passport, but what is she didn't have one? What then?
She should have gotten the warrant from a DECADE ago taken care of and two,California allows illegals to get drivers licenses so that's not exactly PROOF she was a citizen. It was cleared up and she was released no harm no foul,hopefully a lesson learned to take care of your legal problems before they catch up with you.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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"If you are American, where are your papers?" That was ICE's question after arresting a Hispanic citizen - Univision

So I guess this is what the illegal immigration nuts wanted. Now you have American citizens being arrested by ICE! Based on the article, almost 700 american citizens have been jailed from 2007-2016 and that is illegal. She even showed them her driver's license and she was told that it was not enough.

The only way she was released was when a relative brought her passport, but what is she didn't have one? What then?
Nothing new. Even going back to the 50s it was common for hispanic citizens to get arrested and detained for immigration (actually getting deported happens, but is much more rare). I was detained by a sheriff deputy for INS hold back around 2000 because he wouldn't accept my driver's license either. I had called in an alarm going off at a nearby store and when he arrived, I was outside so he asked me for ID. I was about 300 ft from the apartment I was staying in, where I had my passport, but he would not let me go in to get it. When the alarm came back as a fire alarm, for some reason he handed me my ID back and cancelled the call to pick me up.

Since that day, I have always carried proof that I was born in the US. Originally my birth certificate or passport, but now I carry a passport card since it is so convenient.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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She should have gotten the warrant from a DECADE ago taken care of and two,California allows illegals to get drivers licenses so that's not exactly PROOF she was a citizen. It was cleared up and she was released no harm no foul,hopefully a lesson learned to take care of your legal problems before they catch up with you.
If you get arrested, and jailed...to you that "no harm no foul"? Really? You have some odd ideas of what it is to live in a free country.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:41 PM
 
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If you get arrested, and jailed...to you that "no harm no foul"? Really? You have some odd ideas of what it is to live in a free country.
If I have a warrant well yeah! Its my fault for not taking care of the warrant...why would it NOT be my fault?
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:52 PM
 
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She should have gotten the warrant from a DECADE ago taken care of and two,California allows illegals to get drivers licenses so that's not exactly PROOF she was a citizen. It was cleared up and she was released no harm no foul,hopefully a lesson learned to take care of your legal problems before they catch up with you.
The drivers license for illegals CAN'T be used for identification purposes and has distinguishable markings on it to show that it is a license for a California resident who has not provided proof of legal status in the USA.

There's no excuse -- it's easy enough to check.

When we go through the airport they punch in information and it shows the A-# assigned to my boys who have green cards and it shows the date of our citizenship,etc.

This is the problem.......the abuse by officers/ICE..... It is not okay.

And the only reason many of you excuse it and rationalize it is because they aren't keeping you in jail for something that isn't valid anymore.
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Old 05-29-2017, 02:54 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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If I have a warrant well yeah! Its my fault for not taking care of the warrant...why would it NOT be my fault?
It was a failure to appear bench warrant for a witness. People commonly have no idea that these warrants are issued for them. (Especially since they are often valid only in the exact jurisdiction where it was issued.)

It might not be possible to clear a 10 year old FTA warrant as a witness without going to jail. To clear it, the case must be put back on the calendar, and there might not even be a case anymore to put on the calendar. Otherwise, the judge who issued the warrant/contempt has to clear it, and they might not be a judge anymore. At that point, basically you have to pay a lawyer tons of money to go to court (and you have to appear) to squash the warrant, with a significant risk that you get to spend time in jail or at least post bond while your lawyer works on clearing the old warrant.
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