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Old 05-30-2017, 11:37 AM
 
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Republican party - All the stupid religious and morality nonsense that is completely hypocritical to being an actual fiscal conservative. Abortions save millions upon millions of dollars, but the Republican party has a problem with them because of make believe nonsense that my 7 year old can see through. I mean seriously, if the Republican party hates all these poor people on welfare that practically multiply when you add water to them, then why not support something that helps eliminate the problem before it even starts? Abortions are the equivalent of smashing wasp larvae before they ever get a chance to become pests. It makes no sense at all as a fiscal conservative to not be on board with them. Another one would be the war on drugs. While I get not legalizing stuff like meth or heroine is a no brainer, putting people in jail for drugs is nonsense. What a huge waste of money and resources. Hey, let's keep people in cages for years on end with the tax payers money to prevent them from doing something that not only can't be controlled but also can be taxed in some cases (weed)....... Derp

Democratic party- A large portion of the party is nothing more than a bunch of crybaby losers that can't handle ANYTHING. This is a party that will disenfranchise millions upon millions of people just to cater to some tiny minority that is painted as a victim. This is a party that's willing to let teenage boys that claim to identify more as being chicks into a girls locker room, while still beating the war drums about creepy men constantly sexually assaulting women. This is a party that will cater to one of the most conservative religions on earth because they see the culture as more of an underdog than the gender it discriminates against. Yay, let's empower women, but let this culture that treats them like dirt off the hook because they're also victims....what? The constant race baiting, political correctness, and complete disrespect for law and order within the modern Democratic party is pathetic.
You are broad-brushing by focusing on the noisy minority of either party, this is not a "large portion of the party". You'd surely get that impression if you read this place or Reddit but CD in no way reflects the average voter out there. The title to your thread says as much - most people out in the heartland are practical centrists that want nothing to do with the extremist dogma on either the Right or the Left. Not only that, many people in this country don't think of themselves as Democrats or Republicans; they might vote either way depending on the needs of the day. Latest surveys show 40% think of themselves as independents, so that means that roughly 30% identify as a Republican and 30% Democrat, and even in that bunch, maybe 10% would swing to the other side in some elections. So I'd say roughly 20% dyed in the wool Republican, 20% Democrat. And of THAT bunch maybe a third are radicals. At the end of the day it's 10% of the population that are the rabble rousers making all the partisan noise.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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I'd actually like to see you name one that DOES involve violence.
Minimum wage, universal health care, income equality, affirmative action.

Actually I was wrong. Legalizing marijuana does not require violence.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:51 AM
 
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You're either a believer in the social contract (statist) or a believer in free will (non-statist/non-aggression principle believer).

The Dems and Repubs are an illusion of choice when in reality both are authoritarian pawns of the banking families that control the world.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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Minimum wage, universal health care, income equality, affirmative action.

Actually I was wrong. Legalizing marijuana does not require violence.
These involve violence?


Talk about hyperbolic nonsense.

Again, you don't sound like a centrist, you sound like the problem.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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These involve violence?


Talk about hyperbolic nonsense.

Again, you don't sound like a centrist, you sound like the problem.
If you don't pay an employee of yours a certain amount armed agents of the State will fine you then cage you if you continue to disobey.
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:03 PM
 
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These involve violence?


Talk about hyperbolic nonsense.

Again, you don't sound like a centrist, you sound like the problem.
They don't? Talking about HONESTY!!!

We can't even agree that the earth is not flat!

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Old 05-30-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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If you don't pay an employee of yours a certain amount armed agents of the State will fine you then cage you if you continue to disobey.
Take it up with the Constitution and the Supreme Court, who unanimously upheld the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) in 1941 in the case US v Darby Lumber Company. This also guaranteed time-and-a-half OT for certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors.


You're welcome to disagree with the SC's decisions on this matter (free country, and all), but their decision (since Marbury v Madison in 1803) is final on the question of whether a law is Constitutional (unless they change their decision, which very rarely happens).


As for the reasons why it was upheld, you can read the decision. But here's some insight:
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The motive and purpose of the present regulation are plainly to make effective the Congressional conception of public policy that interstate commerce should not be made the instrument of competition in the distribution of goods produced under substandard labor conditions, which competition is injurious to the commerce and to the states from and to which the commerce flows. The motive and purpose of a regulation of interstate commerce are matters for the legislative judgment upon the exercise of which the Constitution places no restriction, and over which the courts are given no control. McCray v. United States, 195 U. S. 27; Sonzinsky v. United States, 300 U. S. 506, 300 U. S. 513, and cases cited.

So - again, enough of your hyperbole. These kind of stubbornly-held strict beliefs are the problem. People like you don't understand the word "compromise", nor do you seem to have respect for our government institutions (such as the SC).
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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They don't? Talking about HONESTY!!!
What violence do you speak of? Are you referring to consequences for breaking laws? Do you have a problem with the Constitution?

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We can't even agree that the earth is not flat!
That's been known for thousands of years.
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Take it up with the Constitution and the Supreme Court, who unanimously upheld the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) in 1941 in the case US v Darby Lumber Company. This also guaranteed time-and-a-half OT for certain jobs, and prohibited most employment of minors.


You're welcome to disagree with the SC's decisions on this matter (free country, and all), but their decision (since Marbury v Madison in 1803) is final on the question of whether a law is Constitutional (unless they change their decision, which very rarely happens).


As for the reasons why it was upheld, you can read the decision. But here's some insight:



So - again, enough of your hyperbole. These kind of stubbornly-held strict beliefs are the problem. People like you don't understand the word "compromise", nor do you seem to have respect for our government institutions (such as the SC).
I generally don't respect criminal enterprises. You're correct there.
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Old 05-30-2017, 12:27 PM
 
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I generally don't respect criminal enterprises. You're correct there.
There are other countries out there for you if you don't like the Constitution or the SC.
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