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Old 05-31-2017, 03:56 AM
 
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Absolutely certain that the folks who are happy to see PP close women's clinics are fully prepared to step in and help with the problems of a sharp rise in unwanted pregnancies.

No chance at all that all the conservative grandparents in Iowa will be raising their abandoned and neglected granchildren deep into their eighties.

Or that in fifteen years the crime and poverty rate will spike due to the surge in crack babies.

Nope, the "pro-lifers" are all prepared with an awesome long term plan to deal with that certainty!
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:12 AM
 
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All I know is, if I were vehemently anti-abortion, I'd be pushing for funding free long-acting reversible birth control for everyone who wanted it. I'd push the government to make OTC birth control as cheap and available as possible and hand it out on street corners.
I've long been one of the biggest proponents of UHC on here. This can most certainly be a part of that.

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If anyone claims to be anti-abortion but won't make BC cheap and easy to get, they're liars who don't give a damn about preventing abortion.
What does it make you if you claim to support abortion but not the above?
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Old 05-31-2017, 04:14 AM
 
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Actually, pro-lifers need to educate the population about what abortion really is, and that includes education about the horrific procedure the pro-choice ghouls endorse.

Once people are educated about abortion, most of them become pro-life. Decent people do not support vacuuming the limbs off a six month old baby while in utero.
Name calling helps nothing. Also...nobody vacuums limbs off a 6 month old. That's not how they are performed this late.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:09 AM
 
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Republican, Democrat, conservative or liberal are mostly pro-choice, a few are anti-choice, zero are pro-life...I think the pope is the only one who is pro-life because terminating a pregnancy from rape is wrong. With this is mind, the few that are anti-choice are just pro-birth. And this makes sense, since birth-control shouldn't be funded either according to their logic. For most of us, let's do what we can, to help families get their birth-control.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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Actually, pro-lifers need to educate the population about what abortion really is, and that includes education about the horrific procedure the pro-choice ghouls endorse.

Once people are educated about abortion, most of them become pro-life. Decent people do not support vacuuming the limbs off a six month old baby while in utero.
So much bs. A woman who goes through six months of pregnancy doesn't seek an abortion because she's changed her mind. She seeks an abortion because something devastating has happened to her or her baby and her doctor has advised her to get an abortion. Such abortions are extremely rare. And decent people understand how tragic and traumatic this must be for the woman involved. Only monsters judge and condemn.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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Default The problem with closing planned parenthood clinics

On this thread several people were chuckling with glee that Planned Perenthood will be closing several clinics in Iowa. Planned Parenthood is closing 1/3rd of "clinics" in Iowa

You realize that the more Planned Parenthood clinics are closed, the longer the waiting lists to get abortions will be, right? You pro-life people know this could very well make it so that the type of people most likely to want abortions - people working 2 jobs and such - will end up having fewer opportunities, resulting in them getting later abortions?

You know that later abortions means more development, right? It means more complex brains.

Pro-lifers should be demanding Planned Parenthood clinics on every street corner so they can be of as much convenience as possible.

If your goal is to protect children, defunding Planned Parenthood is doing the exact opposite of that. Really, even having unusually strict laws relating to abortion throughout the entire state is doing the opposite of protecting babies/fetuses/whatever. You're forcing people to go to other states, which takes them longer (particularly if they're from a low income family) which results in greater development of the fetus/bay/whatever.

The goal of pro-lifers should be some kind of national change to abortion laws, or something that leads to that. Until you get a national change, all you're doing is the opposite of protecting children with these sorts of goals.

And the fact that people were thrilled about those closings? What is wrong with you people?
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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No it doesn't. PP isn't the only place to go. Stop the disinformation campaigns already.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Houston
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You are given a choice. Your life will expanded another month, with a chance of it being expanded another 100 years, if you go through ten minutes of pain. What do you choose?

The hope of any pro-lifer is the woman will rethink her evil choice. That the woman will become a decent human being in the interval.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Missouri, USA
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No it doesn't. PP isn't the only place to go. Stop the disinformation campaigns already.
I didn't spread disinformation. The fact is, fewer places to go means less convenience which means later abortions and more complex development of fetuses.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:57 AM
 
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Given that Republicans are dead set against helping to support the less fortunate, why in the world would they want them to have more children?
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