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Old 06-01-2017, 08:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Did you read the article? Lawn care businesses are threatening to report teens to the city if they see them mowing lawns. You can't exactly cut grass "under the table."


So, the kid cannot cut his own grass like dad said, or they can't go swimming?
How about their aunt's or grand mothers yard?
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:10 AM
 
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well, other people obviously have business licenses, what if this teenager is illegal?

You would display the same outrage?

I would always hire licensed American workers.
Seriously? Your response is to hint that the neighborhood kid who is looking to make some money for the summer might be an illegal? Wow, that is lame, especially coming from you, who usually shows more sense than this.

Did you grow up in this country? Kids have been mowing lawns to earn some money since the dawn of the lawn. But suddenly every kid who wants to make a few extra bucks mowing lawns in the neighborhood first needs to prove his citizenship to the government and then pay a fee for the privilege? Will we extend that to kids who shovel snow in the winter? How about babysitters?

I expect better from you.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Did you read the article? Lawn care businesses are threatening to report teens to the city if they see them mowing lawns. You can't exactly cut grass "under the table."
It's actually a sign of our poor economy. Businesses need to protect themselves.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Seriously? Your response is to hint that the neighborhood kid who is looking to make some money for the summer might be an illegal? Wow, that is lame, especially coming from you, who usually shows more sense than this.

Did you grow up in this country? Kids have been mowing lawns to earn some money since the dawn of the lawn. But suddenly every kid who wants to make a few extra bucks mowing lawns in the neighborhood first needs to prove his citizenship to the government and then pay a fee for the privilege? Will we extend that to kids who shovel snow in the winter? How about babysitters?

I expect better from you.
This is what I posted

Maybe you should read before putting words in my mouth

I said the other lawn care businesses overreacted, didn't I? I said government punish honest people, didn't I? Sheesh, you really should stop looking for something that is not even there.

Maybe there are a lot of competitions in the market in that area. well, Economy is not as good as people think it is.


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well, other people obviously have business licenses, what if this teenager is illegal?

You would display the same outrage?

I would always hire licensed American workers. But I will give you that, the other law care businesses act like Vultures. It is not a kid will steal their businesses. They are overreacting.
Shrug
Plus, I never said he SHOULD pay, I said he is not the ONLY one who pays. Learn to read before getting all pissed off.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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well, other people obviously have business licenses, what if this teenager is illegal?

You would display the same outrage?

I would always hire licensed American workers. But I will give you that, the other law care businesses act like Vultures. It is not a kid will steal their businesses. They are overreacting. Shrug
It's not even like that. I would prefer to have a neighborhood kid do the lawn, it has nothing to do with any other businesses. That has always been a tradition and it should not be discouraged. If it's going to be a big deal maybe I will bake the kid a pie as payment, maybe there will be a 50 in it. What I won't do is hire a professional company that charges crazy rates, then I'll do it myself.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:17 AM
 
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This is what I posted

Maybe you should read before putting words in my mouth

I said the other law makers overreacted, didn't I? I said government punish honest people, didn't I? Sheesh, you really should stop looking for something that is not even there.

Maybe there are a lot of competitions in the market in that area. well, Economy is not as good as people think it is.

Plus, I never said he SHOULD pay, I said he is not the ONLY one who pays. Learn to read before getting all pissed off.
You must have edited your post after I had already quoted it, because that last part wasn't there when I quoted it.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It's not even like that. I would prefer to have a neighborhood kid do the lawn, it has nothing to do with any other businesses. That has always been a tradition and it should not be discouraged. If it's going to be a big deal maybe I will bake the kid a pie as payment, maybe there will be a 50 in it. What I won't do is hire a professional company that charges crazy rates, then I'll do it myself.
well, I never said it should be discouraged.

LOL

I said, he is not the only one who has to go through this.

I sold couple of my designer bags, and paypal reported that income to IRS, they now going after it, and all of sudden, I have to obtain another business license for selling used goods from my own house.

I have a business license already, but now I need another one.

It is a way of life.

I never said it is fair, I am just saying everybody has to go through this. He is not the only one.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You must have edited your post after I had already quoted it, because that last part wasn't there when I quoted it.
well, I edited my post not because of you. I just want to be fair and balanced.

I personally would hire the teen and pay him cash. I washed neighbors' dogs when I was a kid, they paid me $10 per dog.

Can we move on now?
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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It does concern one particular city in Alabama (as noted by Bentbow), with the mayor expressing some dismay over the unintended consequences of the city's law. The article implies that the law will be addressed at the next city council meeting on June 5th.


I will note that there may be some basis for the law (which I could not find online, but I didn't search very hard), namely, that a youth that is paid to enter your yard and mow the lawn is a 'business invitee' (I will not address the particular circumstances of the OP's link). What if the youth injures himself during the mowing? Whom is liable if hospital bills are incurred?


Briefly, and generally, the older the youth, the less chance the owner of the property will be held liable (disregarding gross negligence on the part of the homeowner). Say, 15 or above. Perhaps even 13 years old, depending on the jurisdiction.


If much younger, you get into the sticky situation in which the law may presume that the youth is not able to make informed decisions, hence the homeowner may be liable even if not in any way at fault (if you have insurance on your house, you have, or should have, a provision covering injuries to business invitees, guests, etc.).




In short: the younger the mower, the more liable the homeowner; the older, the less so.
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Old 06-01-2017, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It does concern one particular city in Alabama (as noted by Bentbow), with the mayor expressing some dismay over the unintended consequences of the city's law. The article implies that the law will be addressed at the next city council meeting on June 5th.


I will note that there may be some basis for the law (which I could not find online, but I didn't search very hard), namely, that a youth that is paid to enter your yard and mow the lawn is a 'business invitee' (I will not address the particular circumstances of the OP's link). What if the youth injures himself during the mowing? Whom is liable if hospital bills are incurred?


Briefly, and generally, the older the youth, the less chance the owner of the property will be held liable (disregarding gross negligence on the part of the homeowner). Say, 15 or above. Perhaps even 13 years old, depending on the jurisdiction.


If much younger, you get into the sticky situation in which the law may presume that the youth is not able to make informed decisions, hence the homeowner may be liable even if not in any way at fault (if you have insurance on your house, you have, or should have, a provision covering injuries to business invitees, guests, etc.).




In short: the younger the mower, the more liable the homeowner; the older, the less so.
Good point. Liability issue.
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