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Old 06-02-2017, 11:32 PM
 
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Oh, just casual talk about killing brown people. Boys will be boys, you know.

Brown people? Why the reference to skin color? Most Americans opposed to illegal immigration are not advocating for violence but then what would you pro-illegal people do if you couldn't use a minority of kooks to make it seem like they represent the majority? You obviously can't recognize a joke when you see one either. Actually, our government has every right to shoot invaders if they chose to do so.
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Old 06-03-2017, 12:41 AM
 
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So you chose to totally ignore the links I posted proving how the "good walls" already erected have been very effective?


All those articles say is the walls are effective in certain areas and period of time. Sure the big new walls might be effective for a time, the first few weeks or months. But sooner or later the illegals will figure a way to defeat them. And that is exactly what happened. They cut a big garage-size hole through the wall with a simple hacksaw. Two drug smugglers climbed over it in less than 20 seconds without a rope or ladder with large backpacks on their backs filled with dope, in broad daylight. It's even easier when they go over at night.

The wall is a joke. There is just no way hundreds of miles of walls or fencing can ever be effectively guarded or patrolled.
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Old 06-03-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Blackistan
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Brown people? Why the reference to skin color? Most Americans opposed to illegal immigration are not advocating for violence but then what would you pro-illegal people do if you couldn't use a minority of kooks to make it seem like they represent the majority? You obviously can't recognize a joke when you see one either. Actually, our government has every right to shoot invaders if they chose to do so.
Yes... "jokes"
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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Too many jiggawatts needed
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Anderson, IN
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I insist on building the WALL along the Northern border as well as along all the sea coasts. Why should only southern contractors benefit from this colossal boondoggle.
I agree, that's where all the cold air keeps coming from.
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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And, it was suggested how that could happen and it is a great idea! Kathy Griffin's photo shoot: 7 celebrities standing by her | Fox News
Gets my vote for most irrelevant post of the month!
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Old 06-03-2017, 07:03 AM
 
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I think WHY worry about cost? How many time did Trump tell us Mexico would pay for the wall? Or is that just another of the many empty promises he's made in a long line of LIES?
Empty promises, lies, exaggerations, alternative facts - this is what the Trump base feeds on, it is their daily diet. You are missing the point - this is a movement that revels in willful ignorance, with the underlying philosophy that science and statistics and critical thinking are tools of the "left" and must be avoided at all costs, much like vampires that must avoid the bright light of the sun.

By the way I have to give credit for that analogy to another CD poster:

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Old 06-03-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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All those articles say is the walls are effective in certain areas and period of time. Sure the big new walls might be effective for a time, the first few weeks or months. But sooner or later the illegals will figure a way to defeat them. And that is exactly what happened. They cut a big garage-size hole through the wall with a simple hacksaw. Two drug smugglers climbed over it in less than 20 seconds without a rope or ladder with large backpacks on their backs filled with dope, in broad daylight. It's even easier when they go over at night.

The wall is a joke. There is just no way hundreds of miles of walls or fencing can ever be effectively guarded or patrolled.

No, they have been effective for a long time. It has forced illegals to attempt to cross in more dangerous and difficult areas so fewer have tried. So no, illegals have not been able to defeat those kinds of walls. It's just wishful thinking and merely your opinion. The Border Patrol can take care of those more dangerous areas.


You think that a few incidents where illegals have been able to penetrate the less reinforced walls makes your case? The point is to deter as many illegals as we can and that has been a very high number of them with the double re-enforced walls. No one expects a wall to stop 100% of them. So deterring many or most of them is insignificant.


No, it's you anti-wall people that are the joke and so is your agenda which is either being a bleeding heart liberal, a greedy employer who hires illegals or has ethnic ties to them. I suspect in most cases it's the latter.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:31 AM
 
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Yes... "jokes"

The joke is that you tried to make this about skin color and race when it's not. It's not racism to mention that most illegals are Mexicans and Mexican isn't a race. Facts aren't racism.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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Sounds like I need to spend more time with Trump people to figure out which ones are serious about killing brown people and which ones are "just joking." Thanks for the tip. Will definitely RSVP to my family reunion.

Brown people? The topic is illegal aliens not brown people. Put your race card back in your wallet. Why shouldn't we deter illegal aliens regardless of their skin color? With your last sentence I can see where you stand on this issue. It's typical for many Hispanics to think their ethnic group is above our immigration laws and call anyone who objects to that a racist.
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