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Democrats' only main theme is anti-Trump. It didn't matter what Trump supported appealed to voters or not. Their plan is to be negative about everything he supports.
They supported open borders, many centrist Dems are opposed to it while Progressives are the only ones for it.
Large majority of taxpayers support Trump's vetting of immigrants coming in and legal path to immigration. Not the Hillary's plan of handing out path to citizenship to all illegals currently here.
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You seem to have forgotten one successful Democrat President- Barack Obama- who earned the two highest vote totals of anyone who ever ran for President. Clinton was basically called a socialist when he ran. And Johnson was way out front on Civil Rights in the 60s- not some dithering moderate hoping it would work out down the line.
FWIW- you cannot win from the middle anymore. Clinton did in the 90s with the help of a viable third party candidate siphoning off some of the fiscal conservatives and reform oriented voters. But in all the two way races since then the less moderate candidate has won. Joe Scarborough wrote a great article in 2006 with either a lead or title that was 'go left young man.' His premise was that the Dems in 06 needed to act like Rs in 94. Throw aside party stalwart/my turn candidates, skip being similar to the other party in swing districts and go straight for your base. He proved correct.
I think he was wrong. the ACLU and other metrics which calculate "Liberal" scores of congress took a dip in both 2006 and 2008.
Of the democrats who won in those years, more of the progressives are left than blue dogs, but that could be because the districts the progressives won were not as swing as the ones the blue dogs won.
The democratic party continues to flounder. They have no clear direction, they have no new leaders that can speak to middle America. I'm shocked that after their stunning defeat, they have still not formed a cohesive unified message. They need a new leader, desperately.
It's hard for Democrats. They're a coalition of self-interested groups and sometimes there's no clear direction for them to pull.
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I didn't forget Obama. Hell, I voted for the man twice. Obama's win was a reaction to the frat boy before him completely screwing up the economy in 2006 and 2007. My point was that Democrats who win are generally from the South.
Watch the video. The Democratic party must stop kissing the butts of .01 % of the electorate.
If we don't come to some form of agreement we will keep losing ground to the FOX News class.
Geography isnt the problem, when Clinton won, Arkansas had a Democratic Senate, House, and every member from congress.
Same is true of Texas and Georgia when it comes to party.
FDR was from New York, Kennedy from Massachusetts, Clinton who got a larger amount of support than Trump, was the senator from New York.
I think it was O'Reilly (simmer down now) that said that politically the pendulum usually swings far right, then far left and then ends up in the middle.
As Trump isn't a real conservative he's not perceived to be far right is he?
I know Obama was far left but would you say Trump was far right....and does that mean in four years we will have a moderate - of either party...I'm not anti Republican -- I'm just anti-Trump.
Trump was put in by the far right. I'd say his policies are "fringe" if you could really nail them down.
We'll get a moderate next.
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