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Its barely enough to keep pace with those entering the work force. Its well below the pace of the last 12 months as have been the last several months.
In my opinion its too early to say there is a new trend, but there are definite indications that the growth of jobs may have slowed. Call it an early warning.
number employed FELL this month,,, and back in January...and back in OCT 16
hmm... may year to year from the 07 peak
number employed NOv 2007............146,595,000 the pre recession peak
number employed May 2008............145,908,000 job losses start
number employed May 2009............140,248,000 losses
number employed May 2010............139,241,000 losses
number employed May 2011............139,624,000
number employed May 2012............142,206,000
number employed May 2013............143,856,000
number employed May 2014............145,819,000 took till 2014 to just get back to the 2007 peak
number employed May 2015............148,792,000
number employed May 2016............151,058,000
number employed May 2017............152,923,000 186,5
so let's look at the last 9 months (back to sept 16)
number employed sep 2016............151,926,000
number employed oct 2016............151,902,000.......loss of 24000 jobs under Obama, just before election
number employed nov 2016............152,048,000......146,000 gain under obama
number employed dec 2016............152,111,000.....63,000 gain
number employed jan 2017............152,081,000..... 30,000 LOSS for the month of jan under Obama's last month
number employed feb 2017............152,528,000.....447,000 GAIN during trumps first month...I am NOT crediting trump
number employed mar 2017............153,000,000.....472,000 GAIN trumps second month
number employed apr 2017............153,156,000......156,000 GAIN trumps 3rd month
number employed May 2017............152,923,000......233,000 loss trumps 4th month
losses in oct, jan, and now may...
these are actual numbers from BLS https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
They'll be along shortly to tell us that THESE numbers belong to President Obama, even as they tout supposedly great unemployment figures as being all Trump's doing in another active thread on this very forum. And they will see absolutely no incongruity between the two stances. The cult is not very bright or honest.
Here we go again with you ---"the cult". You worshiped Obama and Hillary, does that make you a "cult member"?
Its barely enough to keep pace with those entering the work force. Its well below the pace of the last 12 months as have been the last several months.
In my opinion its too early to say there is a new trend, but there are definite indications that the growth of jobs may have slowed. Call it an early warning.
it is four months now. 3 is a trend. We have low growth, and lower jobs market.
To me the worst part is the cheerleading of a POTUS who claimed he is the "JOBS" POTUS. Yet he is doing worse than Obama.
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number employed FELL this month,,, and back in January...and back in OCT 16
hmm... may year to year from the 07 peak
number employed NOv 2007............146,595,000 the pre recession peak
number employed May 2008............145,908,000 job losses start
number employed May 2009............140,248,000 losses
number employed May 2010............139,241,000 losses
number employed May 2011............139,624,000
number employed May 2012............142,206,000
number employed May 2013............143,856,000
number employed May 2014............145,819,000 took till 2014 to just get back to the 2007 peak
number employed May 2015............148,792,000
number employed May 2016............151,058,000
number employed May 2017............152,923,000 186,5
so let's look at the last 9 months (back to sept 16)
number employed sep 2016............151,926,000
number employed oct 2016............151,902,000.......loss of 24000 jobs under Obama, just before election
number employed nov 2016............152,048,000......146,000 gain under obama
number employed dec 2016............152,111,000.....63,000 gain
number employed jan 2017............152,081,000..... 30,000 LOSS for the month of jan under Obama's last month
number employed feb 2017............152,528,000.....447,000 GAIN during trumps first month...I am NOT crediting trump
number employed mar 2017............153,000,000.....472,000 GAIN trumps second month
number employed apr 2017............153,156,000......156,000 GAIN trumps 3rd month
number employed May 2017............152,923,000......233,000 loss trumps 4th month
losses in oct, jan, and now may...
these are actual numbers from BLS https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet
Series Id: LNS12000000
Seasonally Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment Level
Labor force status: Employed
Type of data: Number in thousands
Age: 16 years and over
Jobs created =/= people becoming employed.
I think you guys are misunderstanding what the above numbers means.
the monthly job report is not about who got a job this month, it is about actual positions created by companies. Whether they have been filled is reported, but it is not in the base set of numbers you are quoting.
Employment numbers are how many Americans have a job. That number goes up and down, but it isnt always an indication of the economy. As older people leave the work force as a greater percentage of the population than young people enter it, that number will struggle to keep pace (which is why it took till 2014 for it to return to 2007 numbers)
I think you guys are misunderstanding what the above numbers means.
the monthly job report is not about who got a job this month, it is about actual positions created by companies. Whether they have been filled is reported, but it is not in the base set of numbers you are quoting.
Employment numbers are how many Americans have a job. That number goes up and down, but it isnt always an indication of the economy. As older people leave the work force as a greater percentage of the population than young people, that number will struggle to keep pace (which is why it took till 2014 for it to return to 2007 numbers)
DJ,
the 'number jobs created' is supposed to be number of new job over number of jobs lost (layoffs, reirements etc)
for example
the market creats 100k new jobs, but also 50k jobs were eliminated..the total is 50k created (100-50=50)
I posted the ACTUAL number of people EMPLOYED...IAW the BLS
These numbers must be Fake News. After all our Dear Leader just proclaimed yesterday that jobs are coming back at numbers no one thought even possible.
"bringing jobs, plants, and factories back into the United States at numbers which no one until this point thought even possible. And believe me, we’ve just begun. The fruits of our labor will be seen very shortly even more so."
Stock market has been on a tear for about 7 years now. Meanwhile 4 months of declining jobs numbers...
I am fine with my market returns, but TRUMP promised jobs ! Well where are the jobs?
(btw nice deflection attempt, but sorry we are used to trumpers deflecting)
Trump is NOT creating jobs like he promised
Trump is NOT creating jobs like he promised
Trump is NOT creating jobs like he promised.
Did you just pick what you wanted to see about the post. The stocks went up because of the good outlook about jobs. Selective reading on your part. Usual thing with most liberals.
Nobody here is saying the sky is falling, we are simply asking you stop being foolish and stop pretending Trump has done anything at all to improve jobs.
He is sitting there but policy is hard and he has yet to enact any real policy other than showboating. The jobs numbers reflect the economic trends over the last decade, not Trump in any meaningful way. His inaction may start to erode jobs soon and he is NOT instilling confidence outside of his base.
With many dozens of major employers asking Trump to keep the USA in the Paris agreement , Trump put ego and fanbase ahead of jobs.
Trump is now pretending he is going to negotiate a new deal, but he has said this repeatedly and has done nothing. All he is doing is alienating our partners and weakening our position. There will be no new negotiations, Our corps will lose out and will not win the many hundreds of billions of dollars in "green" contracts with developing nations. Trump just handed EU, China, India millions of long term jobs.
Did you just pick what you wanted to see about the post. The stocks went up because of the good outlook about jobs. Selective reading on your part. Usual thing with most liberals.
you are in a JOBS thread, not a stock forum. You know this the topic is jobs, not stocks.
As such i keep on topic despite attempts to deflect away from it.
stocks are moving up for over 7 years. not a few months. Obama has done a great job and you are welcome. And stocks did NOT go up because of lousy jobs numbers, that is just in your head.
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