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Old 06-05-2017, 07:16 AM
 
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Many who voted for Obama to end the wars ended up seeing theirs sons and daughters get sent off to fight in them also.
What does that have to do with disability income?
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:21 AM
 
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What does that have to do with disability income?
It has to do with the actual topic. People being condemned for voting for what others see as against their best interests.

The point being an old one. You can not expect others to do what you would not do.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:28 AM
 
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It has to do with the actual topic. People being condemned for voting for what others see as against their best interests.

The point being an old one. You can not expect others to do what you would not do.
Obama said he would end the wears which he took steps to, more so than the man before and after him. We can argue the finer points of that on another post. Trump ran on a platform of decimating the safety net, so not exactly apples to apples.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:31 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You are reading people's license plate numbers and then watching how they breathe?
And they went all the way to middle America to do it. They could have just stayed in the urban areas to see the chunksters.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:34 AM
 
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no- actually- using logic and reasoning I think point OP was making was that in places that elected a man to slash the safety net nearly 20% of working age people really on said benefits...That these people vote against their self interest for some reason? Yet I'm sure they feel their benefits are earned or justified and other people, especially those in urban area, are the leeches.....
How do you know those 20% on disability even voted.

You and the OP have special super powers?
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:38 AM
 
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Obama said he would end the wears which he took steps to, more so than the man before and after him. We can argue the finer points of that on another post. Trump ran on a platform of decimating the safety net, so not exactly apples to apples.
Syria, Libya, Yemen.

You still can not do what you expect others to do.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:41 AM
 
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Many who voted for Obama to end the wars ended up seeing theirs sons and daughters get sent off to fight in them also.
More troops died under Obama than Bush.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Low wages disincentivize work. The average SSDI payment is $1170/mo. Minimum wage is $1160/mo BEFORE taxes. Then you have to factor in transportation cost to and from work (and in many cases, daycare). I would much rather stay home and raise my kid than work for LESS money. There is no nobility in putting your kid in daycare and being POORER just to say you're working. If we adopted a living wage, more of these people would go to work.
This is the real truth right here.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:44 AM
 
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This is the real truth right here.
It's only partially the truth though. There are many who are on disability that could work........if the work was there that paid more than minimum.

The government approves these claims to get people off the unemployment roles as high unemployment tends to hurt at election time.

So we condemn those on disability when in the big picture the problem is the screwed up economy.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:48 AM
 
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Many who voted for Obama to end the wars ended up seeing theirs sons and daughters get sent off to fight in them also.
People whose children voluntarily joined the military during two wars, thought that by voting for Obama the wars would magically end abruptly?

We pulled out of Iraq and Afghanistan on timetables agreed upon by GW, the Pentagon and Iraqi/Afghani leadership.


Did I miss your point somehow?
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