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Old 06-04-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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Paralysis in the US and UK caused by the very same fear: fear of being labeled racist, hysterical, xenophobic, etc.


Terms I'm sure you've used more than once? Were you for or against Trump's travel ban? I, for example, was against it only to the effect that it didn't go far enough!
Well, you go ahead and find one of those posts where I've used any of those terms and quote it for me would you?

Doesn't compute that EVERY single one of the thousands of multiple shooting or the few verified terrorist activity in the U.S. was committed by home growns or those Saudi's given visas.

Doesn't compute you've already got over 3 million Muslims living in the U.S. (first recorded one in the 1700's) with over 3500 mosques servicing their religion and in spite of the logic of boobs on here, you're still able to live with them in reasonable harmony.

None of these facts computes but nonetheless a travel ban has just got to perform some magic form of stopping y'all from killing each other faster than any terrorist could ever hope for.
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Old 06-04-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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This thread is the most oxymoronic example of ignoring reality I've ever seen.

You just had a former navy officer go berserk and run down Americans in Times square no more than two weeks ago.

Add up all the deaths that have occurred in Europe for any specific time period other than WWII and compare them with the same time frame for the U.S. and then consider how stupid this thread with it's inane title is.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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This thread is the most oxymoronic example of ignoring reality I've ever seen.

You just had a former navy officer go berserk and run down Americans in Times square no more than two weeks ago.

Add up all the deaths that have occurred in Europe for any specific time period other than WWII and compare them with the same time frame for the U.S. and then consider how stupid this thread with it's inane title is.
I see, so you equate people dying of natural causes, car accidents, and drug overdoses as no different than dying from a nail bomb detonated at a teen concert?
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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Yes, what that poster said is extreme and such actions would be harmful and unwarranted. Watching Europe deal with terrorist attacks on a near regular basis is frustrating to watch. Some people are pushed to extreme thinking by perceived outside threats such as this. I think most of us would be completely satisfied with restrictions on taking in refugees from countries that hate us.
I'd love for the USA to return to the style of immigration we had 1924-1965 (roughly) which was ultra restrictive. It should be based on the anti 21st century EU model. Not open ended, not based on your need to leave your nation, more like a job application..what do you provide the USA by our allowing you to enter? Are you a risk free entry for the USA meaning we know everything major about you from moment of birth-which means your nation must have the equivalent of a birth provided Social Security Number.

I feel sorry for sane EU residents, but their policies are the reason they left themselves wide open to terrorism. We must never, ever do that on such a scale.

Time to stop singing Kumbaya and discuss sane , objectively harsh restrictions on immigration. And yes, if we have folks who pose risks to us that are not full citizens, we should move to deport them. No matter what their feelings are.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:56 PM
 
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Doesn't compute you've already got over 3 million Muslims living in the U.S. (first recorded one in the 1700's) with over 3500 mosques servicing their religion and in spite of the logic of boobs on here, you're still able to live with them in reasonable harmony.
They are .9% because we did not (wisely) allow millions of Syrians in, despite BO's wishes. We avoided EU mistake. We should cap that region population within .1% of its present level.

They are many multiples that percentage in terrorism ravaged EU. Causation?
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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They are .9% because we did not (wisely) allow millions of Syrians in, despite BO's wishes. We avoided EU mistake. We should cap that region population within .1% of its present level.

They are many multiples that percentage in terrorism ravaged EU. Causation?
Liberals dont seem to understand. Radical Islam does not care if you are nice to them, they dont care if you defend them, they dont care period.

They respect strength and power. Not weakness and capitulation. They play liberal tolerance against them. That is why they almost exclusively attack unarmed civilians in "gun free" zones.

But of course liberals lash out at anyone who likes to defend themselves as "intolerant" and "bigots".
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:24 PM
 
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They are .9% because we did not (wisely) allow millions of Syrians in, despite BO's wishes. We avoided EU mistake. We should cap that region population within .1% of its present level.

They are many multiples that percentage in terrorism ravaged EU. Causation?
Of all the muslim migrants in the EU, less than 2% are from Syria. There are less than 200,000 syrians in the whole of the EU.
That number is probably lower, due to the huge ammounts of fake documents used by Iraqi, Afgan, Libyan, Pakistani....etc, migrants.
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:11 PM
 
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Of all the muslim migrants in the EU, less than 2% are from Syria. There are less than 200,000 syrians in the whole of the EU.
That number is probably lower, due to the huge ammounts of fake documents used by Iraqi, Afgan, Libyan, Pakistani....etc, migrants.
Their total ME Muslim population has exploded the last 20 years. We both know that. I would not simply restrict 1 nation, but rather the entire ME except Israel.
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:36 PM
 
Location: USA
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Oh for heaven's sake:

50 years or more of an open southern border and the associated crime that came in with the illegals (13 million of them) and you presume to lecture Europeans for being self loathing.

Examples of Serious Crimes By Illegal Aliens

Where do you people get off?
True!
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Old 06-04-2017, 02:37 PM
 
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I guess to liberals, Potentially making a foreigner feel "uncomfortable" is far worse than leaning over the broken body of your child who was killed in the name of allah. But not before tweeting out #notallmuslims
sadly correct
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