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Old 06-05-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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It has a penis, not a vagina and is therefore a male. Biology states this is a fact.
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Old 06-05-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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We need three bathrooms now. One for males, one for females and one for morons who identify as heaven knows what and are nothing more than idiots because they might choose to identify as a typewriter or a unicorn.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:19 AM
 
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We need three bathrooms now. One for males, one for females and one for morons who identify as heaven knows what and are nothing more than idiots because they might choose to identify as a typewriter or a unicorn.
The bathroom issue is an easy fix. Let people and businesses choose their bathroom policies, and in government facilities, you go to the bathroom as how you present.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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That will be the issue in practically all high school cases and most college cases, there will still be a major advantage due to the natural hormone differences yet to be countered by hormone therapy.

The truth of the matter is cases like this are going to be pretty rare; however, it is a real issue for the young ladies that are truly being cheated out of their victories.
You obviously did not read the NCAA trans policy I posted a few posts back. No trans female will be permitted to play college sports as a female without a years worth of hormone therapy and testing putting them within the limits of a female. So far in the few cases there has been no sign of a clear advantage. Playing D3 usually means they were not good enough to compete at the D2 or D1 level. Of course we have only seen team sports thus far. Rowing, Volleyball and Soccer. There could be some cases that are still unknown. There was just a soccer player who came out after her college playing days came to an end. Only a small few from the schools athletic dept new she was trans. Her teammates did not.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:53 AM
 
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You obviously did not read the NCAA trans policy I posted a few posts back. No trans female will be permitted to play college sports as a female without a years worth of hormone therapy and testing putting them within the limits of a female. So far in the few cases there has been no sign of a clear advantage. Playing D3 usually means they were not good enough to compete at the D2 or D1 level. Of course we have only seen team sports thus far. Rowing, Volleyball and Soccer. There could be some cases that are still unknown. There was just a soccer player who came out after her college playing days came to an end. Only a small few from the schools athletic dept new she was trans. Her teammates did not.
And you missed this:

Notice years plural?

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I'm trans and I agree.

Estrogen does have a dramatic effect reducing muscle mass in trans women's bodies, but it takes a long time for that to happen. A few years at best.

That said, I have a trans guy friend named Michael who is a really big dude. Testosterone was very kind to him.

But like I said, it takes a good while for hormones to do what they need to do.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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All this changing your sex and body parts is a Pandora's box that has been opened.
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Some people don't have the physical gender to match their mental gender.

I have no issue with those people fixing it to match.
Respectfully, I disagree with you.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:56 AM
 
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It has a penis, not a vagina and is therefore a male. Biology states this is a fact.
That can be remedied, and should be before someone gets to ïdentify" as female.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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If I identify as a 70 year old person so why can't I retire now on full social security? If race and gender are a choice, then age has to be as well.
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Old 06-05-2017, 10:59 AM
 
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He will always be a he regardless what a surgeon or hormones do.
I want to see just how much they really ïdentify".
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Old 06-05-2017, 11:00 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The bathroom issue is an easy fix. Let people and businesses choose their bathroom policies, and in government facilities, you go to the bathroom as how you present.
Not clear enough. This transgender student has a penis and testicles. The MINOR girl students apparently have no say/rights in this matter:

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"In the middle of last school year, Lila Perry came out as transgender. Before that, she had been living as a gay male.

But that’s not who she really was. No longer was she going to pretend, Lila said.

So this year, she told teachers and administrators at Hillsboro High School, where she is a senior, that she would no longer be content to use a unisex faculty bathroom. She wanted to be treated like other female students, including access to bathrooms and locker rooms for girls."
Hillsboro High students walk out over transgender dispute

The transgender but anatomically male student was given the use of a private unisex faculty locker/shower room facility, something other students would love to have but don't get, and rejected that. He's insisting on sporting his penis and testicles in the school girls' locker/shower room.
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