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Old 06-05-2017, 12:06 AM
 
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https://www.stripes.com/news/america...l#.WTQVWmgrJaS

The one that got me the most was this one:
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Veterans eligible now for the Individual Unemployability benefit have a 60 to 100 percent disability rating through the VA and are unable to secure a job because of their disability. It allows them to receive the highest compensation rate. For 2017, the monthly rate for a veteran living alone is $2,915.
The Trump budget proposes to remove veterans from the benefit once he or she reaches the minimum age for Social Security, if they’re eligible for Social Security payments. Veterans who have already reached that age and receive Social Security would be removed immediately and have their payments decreased. For a 60 percent disabled veteran living alone, their monthly payments could be reduced to $1,062.
Basically it will force many disabled vets to claim their social security as early as possible, hurting their income in their later years.

So conservatives, you all seem to back veterans, how does this make you feel?
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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The one that got me the most was this one:


Basically it will force many disabled vets to claim their social security as early as possible, hurting their income in their later years.

So conservatives, you all seem to back veterans, how does this make you feel?
It's so complicated, I'm trying to take this all in. Hubby has 70% disability rating with the VA. He receives his healthcare there. At first he was interested in the privatization deal (just healthcare) and started calling around. First he learned that if he does go with a private doctor he will never be able to go back the the VA again if things don't work out. Then he started calling the doctors that were listed. Many had never heard of it and had no idea why their names were on the list and why he was calling. He found one doctor who was part of it but was some sort of specialist, had been listed as a primary care doctor (NO, SHE IS NOT). Greywar, we're probably talking about two different (but similar) things. VETS, please be careful about this privatization deal. You can lose your VA healthcare...and believe me, hubby is not 100% pleased with the VA which is why he was interested in the first place. It's the government trying to push their "problems" (our vets) on someone else. It's appalling.
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:31 AM
 
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Trump has proposed stopping those payouts once veterans are eligible for Social Security retirement benefits, arguing the practice now amounts to “the duplication of benefits.” It would impact more than 225,000 veterans receiving the payouts today.

I'd like to see a clarification. If the disability benefits are 2k a month and once one hits retirement age they get 1k from SS does that mean the disability gets cut down to 1k so that person is getting the same amount or does all the disability get cut?
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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It's so complicated, I'm trying to take this all in. Hubby has 70% disability rating with the VA. He receives his healthcare there. At first he was interested in the privatization deal (just healthcare) and started calling around. First he learned that if he does go with a private doctor he will never be able to go back the the VA again if things don't work out. Then he started calling the doctors that were listed. Many had never heard of it and had no idea why their names were on the list and why he was calling. He found one doctor who was part of it but was some sort of specialist, had been listed as a primary care doctor (NO, SHE IS NOT). Greywar, we're probably talking about two different (but similar) things. VETS, please be careful about this privatization deal. You can lose your VA healthcare...and believe me, hubby is not 100% pleased with the VA which is why he was interested in the first place. It's the government trying to push their "problems" (our vets) on someone else. It's appalling.
Trump is trying to make the problem (the vets) disappear. That way he can claim that he fixed the VA and he's "winning".

I don't trust it. Sounds like a half baked scheme.

I'd stay with the VA warts and all
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Old 06-05-2017, 12:54 AM
 
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Trump has proposed stopping those payouts once veterans are eligible for Social Security retirement benefits, arguing the practice now amounts to “the duplication of benefits.” It would impact more than 225,000 veterans receiving the payouts today.

I'd like to see a clarification. If the disability benefits are 2k a month and once one hits retirement age they get 1k from SS does that mean the disability gets cut down to 1k so that person is getting the same amount or does all the disability get cut?
Stopping would indicate that the vet would go from 2K a month on the disability, to 1K a month,on the social security-the disability would end.

If the article got it wrong, I would be interested in learnign that.

And keep in mind-it means once eligible for social security, you would either:
go from 2K/month to 0 and try to live off of savings until full social security would kick in, OR take social security at the lower early value.
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Old 06-05-2017, 02:40 AM
 
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If you have been on IU for 20 years, the VA cannot pay you less than that amount. If I understand it correctly, Trump's plan calls for them to be rolled back to their original rating, but if you've received IU for more than 20 years, you should be OK.

Let me see if I understand this correctly, and correct me if I am wrong here,

This is a proposed cut to individual unemployability benefit. IU takes people who are NOT rated 100% and pays them AS IF they were (because their disability makes it impossible for them to be employed).

This change would not impact VA payment for rated disabilities.

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Old 06-05-2017, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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My friend is a combat vet (2.5 tours in ME). I don't know his disability rating, but he gets $2375/month for losing an arm. His son is suffering from Leukemia and VA sent the kid to Children's hospital and my friend is paying only $250 / month for the kid's medication. Recently, he just found out he is eligible for more benefit, (he didn't tell me what and I didn't ask) So he seems pretty happy about the benefit he received from VA.

Also, he said veteran's choice program is Godsent. Many younger generation of veterans seem happy with the program. Trump just signed Bill to Extend Veterans Choice Program.

I don't know. Maybe some older veterans will be unhappy about this change, why not contacting the va and find out the detail? If you have been on IU for 20 years, the VA cannot pay you less than that amount anyway.
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Old 06-05-2017, 03:43 AM
 
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My friend is a combat vet (2.5 tours in ME). I don't know his disability rating, but he gets $2375/month for losing an arm. His son is suffering from Leukemia and VA sent the kid to Children's hospital and my friend is paying only $250 / month for the kid's medication. Recently, he just found out he is eligible for more benefit, (he didn't tell me what and I didn't ask) So he seems pretty happy about the benefit he received from VA.

Also, he said veteran's choice program is Godsent. Many younger generation of veterans seem happy with the program. Trump just signed Bill to Extend Veterans Choice Program.

I don't know. Maybe some older veterans will be unhappy about this change, why not contacting the va and find out the detail?
I didn't comment on the veterans choice thing, because honestly happiness with the VA tends to be very regional. IE either the local va is awesome...or it isn't. I do know most veterans do not want thier medical assistance privatized, because they fear that it will be cut over time. And I can't say I dont see their concern.

The VA is extremely expensive. And its the cost of sending people to war. If we can't pay for it, we cant afford war either. So cuts to it seem to me at least. To be wrong.
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Old 06-05-2017, 03:49 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I didn't comment on the veterans choice thing, because honestly happiness with the VA tends to be very regional. IE either the local va is awesome...or it isn't. I do know most veterans do not want thier medical assistance privatized, because they fear that it will be cut over time. And I can't say I dont see their concern.

The VA is extremely expensive. And its the cost of sending people to war. If we can't pay for it, we cant afford war either. So cuts to it seem to me at least. To be wrong.
The Veterans Choice Program is a new, temporary benefit that allows eligible Veterans to receive health care in their communities rather than waiting for a VA appointment or traveling to a VA facility. They can still use the VA health care if they want. It (The Veterans Choice Program) has nothing to do with Privatizing the VA.

Trump just signed the bill to extend that program. I don't know anybody who are unhappy about it. I read it somewhere this extension will cost $29 billion dollars or maybe $9 B ?! (I could be off about the number, I don't remember the exact number, so I apologize in advance)

I am not sure about your op, so I cannot really comment on it that much. But it seems like If you have been on IU for 20 years, the VA cannot pay you less than that amount. So If you've received IU for more than 20 years, you should be OK.

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Old 06-05-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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https://www.stripes.com/news/america...l#.WTQVWmgrJaS

The one that got me the most was this one:


Basically it will force many disabled vets to claim their social security as early as possible, hurting their income in their later years.

So conservatives, you all seem to back veterans, how does this make you feel?
Don't believe EVERYTHING you read!
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