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Old 06-07-2017, 09:59 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Your examples tell me that you are on the left, in spite of your constant attempts to state otherwise.

One incident by a Trump supporter. That's all you've got? Because those other examples are just words. And words don't send you to the hospital. Words don't require you to hide your face with a mask. Words don't roam through crowds of peaceful protesters bashing in heads. Words don't require police protection.

Of course the alt-right is not 100% innocent. But you are implying that conservatives attending a rally are extremists, while completely ignoring that ACTUAL violent beatings perpetrated by the left-wing anarchists. That makes you look dishonest and very partisan.
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Old 06-07-2017, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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OP fails to mention these weapons were seized from antifa leftists. still, it's trump's fault
The weaponry was seized from both sides.

Portland has been as much a hotbed for skinheads as it is a hotbed for the young liberals for many years, and the city has a century-long tradition of street battles. The notion of peaceful protest being conducted by only one side, being met with physical confrontation by the other does not apply to Portland, and never has. The skinheads and the hippies have been battling it out on the streets for many years there.

Neither side was going to be driven down without a serious fight, so both came prepared. The fact is that while some scuffling and a few brief fistfights broke out, none of the weaponry was ever deployed by either side.

That the demonstration didn't go to more violence is a tribute to the Portland police, with assistance for the State police and National Guard. They have been dealing with incidents like this for a long time, and the piles of seized weapons are evidence of their success.

This isn't the 20th century any more. There won't be any more one-sided events where large groups of people will put up with being beaten, sprayed, or hauled away without physical resistance and fighting back.

That's not to say there won't be many peaceful demonstrations to come; there will be. But they will only stay peaceful it no one starts a fight. This generation of kids isn't following Dr. King's non-violent ways at all.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 07:55 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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The weaponry was seized from both sides.

Portland has been as much a hotbed for skinheads as it is a hotbed for the young liberals for many years, and the city has a century-long tradition of street battles. The notion of peaceful protest being conducted by only one side, being met with physical confrontation by the other does not apply to Portland, and never has. The skinheads and the hippies have been battling it out on the streets for many years there.

Neither side was going to be driven down without a serious fight, so both came prepared. The fact is that while some scuffling and a few brief fistfights broke out, none of the weaponry was ever deployed by either side.

That the demonstration didn't go to more violence is a tribute to the Portland police, with assistance for the State police and National Guard. They have been dealing with incidents like this for a long time, and the piles of seized weapons are evidence of their success.

This isn't the 20th century any more. There won't be any more one-sided events where large groups of people will put up with being beaten, sprayed, or hauled away without physical resistance and fighting back.

That's not to say there won't be many peaceful demonstrations to come; there will be. But they will only stay peaceful it no one starts a fight. This generation of kids isn't following Dr. King's non-violent ways at all.
Please show the reports that state the weapons were found on both sides, all I've seen links them all to the "anti" crowd. Also, I don't believe there were any "free speech" protestors throwing bricks/bottles/stink bombs at the police like the "anti" crowd were.
Thanks...
 
Old 06-08-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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I don't think those "collectivists" would keep you from leaving. Give it a try.
Thank you for making my point for me. Much appreciated.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 09:02 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The weaponry was seized from both sides.
a single source has stated that. yet multiple sources say that all the misbehavior was entirely one-sided and that only the antifarts caused trouble.

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Police cracked down on only one side—the protesters who threw red-stained tampons at officers while chanting, “All cops are bastards!”

Portland Breathes a Sigh of Relief after Weekend Protester Showdown. But Several Questions Persist About Police Tactics. - Willamette Week
 
Old 06-08-2017, 06:06 PM
 
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Well, then I guess the last 8 years was McCain and Mitt Romney's America
I don't remember rioting in the streets like now after Obama was elected. The right accepted the results of the election.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I don't remember rioting in the streets like now after Obama was elected. The right accepted the results of the election.
You can blame others all day long. In Trumps America everyone is at each others throat. Instead of looking for an excuse or someone to blame, why don't you ask why it is happening under Trump and why it has not happened in the past (since the 60s)? It did not happen under Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr or Obama.
 
Old 06-08-2017, 10:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Please show the reports that state the weapons were found on both sides, all I've seen links them all to the "anti" crowd. Also, I don't believe there were any "free speech" protestors throwing bricks/bottles/stink bombs at the police like the "anti" crowd were.
Thanks...

Those were the weapons from the 14 people arrested.
 
Old 06-09-2017, 12:48 AM
 
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You can blame others all day long. In Trumps America everyone is at each others throat. Instead of looking for an excuse or someone to blame, why don't you ask why it is happening under Trump and why it has not happened in the past (since the 60s)? It did not happen under Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, Bush Jr or Obama.
Trump derangement syndrome. Plus Hillary is still on her pity tour saying she is joining the resistance. Who says those things when they lose? The others didn't.
 
Old 06-09-2017, 05:21 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump derangement syndrome.
Keep shifting the blame.

You didn't answer the question.

What brought all the anarchists and alt-right nut-jobs out of the woodworks?

The answer is obvious. The election of Donald Trump.

This would not be happening if Rubio, R.Paul or Cruz had won.
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