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Yes, that is the "scientific" consensus Why do we even both teaching science if this is what that "education" produces?
Because people who aren't incurious morons like to make fact-based, logical decisions.
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China does nothing unless there's a profit in it. I'm guessing they are seeing a lot of suckers ripe for the picking in California.
You should ponder this post of yours for a while. Yes, China sees money in it. And you know what? California sees money in it. Private industry sees money in it. The rest of the world sees money in it.
The only people who don't get that there's money in advancing science and technology are small-minded morons who think advancement means economic disaster and that rolling back the clock to 1890 is the only way to go forward.
Ummm...i guess? I dont know what the hell you are talking about. I dont know if i have ever posted any gif from any website. I dont read brietbart, so i dont know if you are confusing me with someone else?
Are you really that forgetful? It's only been a few hours.
If anybody has to look to California to take the lead in anything then we are in trouble ! America has fallen so far down the liberal rabbit hole that this would be a total disaster !@!!!
Correct, they will sell Chinese made solar panels to the rest of the wolrd manufactured with power derived from coal.
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California sees money in it.
Correct gain, they will raise taxes to support it.
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Private industry sees money in it.
3 for 3, Companies like Elon Musk's SolarCity will be glad to collect those tax dollars for installing Chinese panels.
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The rest of the world sees money in it.
Yes, by hindering the US economy.
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The only people who don't get that there's money in advancing science and technology are small-minded morons who think advancement means economic disaster and that rolling back the clock to 1890 is the only way to go forward.
Here is the question I have asked previously. Why the need for subsidies, mandates and this agreement to begin with if the picture you are painting is so rosy?
There's nothing to lead. Climate Change is a normal function of Inter-Glacial Periods. When you can prove the Earth's average global temperature should be 57.2°F and no higher, then get back to us.
There is nothing normal about having 9 of the 10 warmest year on record all occurring in the last 15 years!
If your car starts overheating, and getting hotter each month. That's not normal and you would laugh at anyone who suggest to you that's just how cars are supposed to work.
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Seeing how Welfare is generational, it kind of destroys your thesis.
Just because they stay poor, doesn't mean they want it that way, right?!!
Here is the question I have asked previously. Why the need for subsidies, mandates and this agreement to begin with if the picture you are painting is so rosy?
Because there is new infrastructure cost for new technology that existing ones don't have to factor in.
Here’s why. Even if they’re now, finally, cost-competitive at the point of sale, low-carbon technologies are still working with an infrastructure—a utility regulatory system, a power grid, a highway system, a combustion engine-centric fueling system—built for a world powered by fossil fuels. These massive infrastructure projects were built up with public-sector support, including tax credits, low-cost loans, and outright grants from the federal government.
Companies designing new energy sources, in contrast, often have to build their own infrastructure and factor it into their costs. Take electric vehicles, for instance, which at the moment have a battery life that requires frequent charging on long trips, but which operate in a world of gas stations serving conventional vehicles. This mismatch of technology and infrastructure requires either significantly more R&D investment into electric vehicles to extend their battery life, or promotion of EV charging stations that will allow for these cars to compete on the open road.
This is highly unusual - a leader of a country going directly to a state governor, not the president, and say, "You are going to lead this."
California is now increasingly taking over the leadership role left void by the Trump Administration.
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I think China is recognizing that any industrial system that is clean and environmentally responsible, becomes a more profitable and successful one. The heads of all those American corporations that oppose Trump's withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord, have learned this.
China should be credited for their plans to head in this direction, not insulted and rejected for past mistakes. We have to embrace all those that are willing to work for change and improvement, to be successful in controlling pollution and resulting climate problems, on a worldwide basis. America first? The wind that blows around the harmful gases, knows no national boundaries.
Our share of the load in this essential movement, will not be carried or given support by Trump and his red-state followers. He has disqualified himself from it willfully. So Gov. Brown is filling the void and will be welcomed and accredited by the participating nations. California will prosper from his actions and so will all the states that join the new climate alliance. Trump has no position, after his withdrawal from the Paris Accord, to object to or obstruct Gov. Brown's leadership role.
Because there is new infrastructure cost for new technology that existing ones don't have to factor in.
I wouldn't call your example an infrastructure problem but a market problem, if you can deliver a product to people they want at a profit everything else follows.
What about residential solar panels with net metering?. In that case not only are they benefiting from existing infrastructure they are causing the cost of that infrastructure they rely on to rise for others?
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Why do we even both teaching science if this is what that "education" produces?
