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Old 06-08-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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I am a 57 year old centrist. Depends on the issue,

Fiscally conservative, small government... look at what is happening now, all politicians care about is power and could care less about getting the work done and that's what is turning me off to Democrats.

Socially no issues with gay marriage, pro-abortion, only time limited (early on), non of this late term abortion. Anti-socialism / marxist, although I believe in helping others, the system is set up backwards and encourages dependency and doesn't really help people who truly need help and want to get off the system.

Democrat switched to Republican
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:11 AM
 
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Was a Republican for many years and switched to become a Democrat within the past decade.
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Not with decades of student loan payments, they're not.

Furthermore, didn't you read the Newsweek article I linked? Georgetown University said that 40% of the unemployed are millennials.

Oh, my. Mine came out earning just under 6 figures. Highly marketable degrees, though. Engineering + MBA and Actuarial Science + MBA. Both completed both degrees in 5 years at Big Ten schools (thanks to 30+ hours of AP college credit) so therefore huge national alumni networks, worked summer internships at $25/hour or more (again, due to employers heavily recruiting from Big Ten universities) and part-time jobs during the school year, and therefore didn't need to take out student loans.

Many of their friends didn't plan very well, and are either unemployed or underemployed, owe tens of thousand$ in student loan debts, and are screwed for decades.
I did read the article. I'm not disputing it - I'm saying there is another group you didn't reference - and your post about your own kids confirmed that they got decent degrees and are making good money.

I know some young people paying back student loans and still managing to save for retirement and a home. One of my sons is among them (my other has no student loans), but he's making six figures. In fact, he's able to send more money than what is due each month because he wants to get rid of it as soon as he can.

Engineering and Actuaries make much more than business majors coming out of school. I thought that was common knowledge, but apparently not. Almost all of the students I'm referring to are in business and went to Big 10 schools.

If your kids came out earning just under 6 figures and they cannot save for retirement and a home while paying their student loans - they should seek some financial advice because there's a problem.
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Was a Republican for many years and switched to become a Democrat within the past decade.
I was a Democrat for most of my 70 years. I watched as my Party turned it's back on the same American workers that built the Party. While I do not necessarily trust the Republicans; Trump swore to back the same people that built the Democratic Party. So far he has delivered or attempted to deliver even when both Parties are fighting against him. I have yet to hear the Democrats tell us they are returning to their roots.
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I did read the article. I'm not disputing it - I'm saying there is another group you didn't reference - and your post about your own kids confirmed that they got decent degrees and are making good money.
Yep, but they're not Dems. One's a Libertarian, the other is Independent. Won't vote for Dems as after working so hard to get where they are, won't voluntarily support collectivism.

Remember, again, the comment was specifically addressing the increase in conservatives among millennials.

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If your kids came out earning just under 6 figures and they cannot save for retirement and a home while paying their student loans - they should seek some financial advice because there's a problem.
I didn't say that was the case. My millennial kids have no student loans. They are saving/investing both for retirement and a home.

My comment, specifically was in reference to millennials who earned unmarketable/unemployable degrees, took out huge student loans to do so, and are either unemployed or underemployed, as in the Newsweek article I linked. For example, a barista or retail sales clerk with a BA in Art History, earning $10/hour (hopefully not less), and trying to pay off $60,000 or more in student loan debt.

Seems you have a problem with reading comprehension?

Your degree is in...?
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Old 06-08-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I was a Democrat for most of my 70 years. I watched as my Party turned it's back on the same American workers that built the Party. While I do not necessarily trust the Republicans; Trump swore to back the same people that built the Democratic Party. So far he has delivered or attempted to deliver even when both Parties are fighting against him. I have yet to hear the Democrats tell us they are returning to their roots.
Good point.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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In a decade or two, people will be posting this and will be serious. Wait... people are already trans-age and trans-species. I literally just forgot, I thought the poster was only making fun at the fluid gender movement.
Otherkin are a small but growing group. These are the people who feel they are faeries, or trees, or dragons, or wolves, or owls, or even fictional characters. They mostly look for ways to use their trite delusion to take mock offense at things -- stuff like people not seeing their "wings" or "tails" or minimizing their animalkin nature. Then they post about it on Twitter or Reddit or Tumblr. They are the ultimate trans-trenders.

And all that is alright, people can live out whatever delusions they want... except, one could imagine that 15 years from now, as their numbers have swelled, they will be pushing for legislation (in Canada for example) that makes it a hate crime to deny their true nature or use words that "erase" their otherkin identity instead of acknowledging them.

It is this kind of post-modernism that I hope most of the people here, blue/red, liberal/conservative, left/right, and everything in between can see through and rebuke.

(Although, future technologies such as genetic programming, body-crafting, and persistent group AR/VR probably *will* let people live out their fantasies of being another type of lifeform.)
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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29, liberal.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:36 AM
 
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I also would like to say I lean a little towards the left on social issues and I will explain why. There was a time back in the 70's when I had to go on welfare after I left a very abusive marriage. Thank God welfare was there to help. I quickly found odd jobs to do until I landed a job w/ an Oil/PetroChemical Company in Compton, CA. Of course I got off welfare but also was fortunate to get Section 8 housing in Redondo Beach where I was living at the time with a roommate and my daughter. I will ALWAYS be grateful for Social Services.

Welfare was not meant to be used forever. It was a stepping stone until you got back on your feet. We have seen generation after generation be raised on Welfare. We have also seen it abused!
Sounds like my background as a kid. My mom was out of work for a short period of time, and she received government assistance and low cost housing for several months before finding a job. Thank god for government assistance. But during that short period of time in low cost housing I saw so much welfare fraud and abuse I swore that would never happen to me.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:41 AM
 
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42, Republican. I have voted in every election since I turned 18. I have never voted for a Democrat for President and I doubt I ever will given the extremist nutjobs in charge of that party these days.


I have on occasion voted for Democrats in local and state elections, usually because there is no opposition candidate running. Living in Baltimore City, it is tempting to switch parties so I can at least vote in the primary to vote against the more maniacal candidates in the Democrat Party. However, I can't bring myself to do it, that's how bad the Democrats are. I just won't be associated with an anti-American, anti-cop, anti-military, anti-male, anti-working and anti-white party.


I have no particular love for the Republican Party, who puts out as many liberals as the Democrats do. But at least with the Republicans you have a chance of getting someone who isn't a big government statist.
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