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Old 06-09-2017, 05:59 AM
 
Location: North Attleboro, MA
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So we now know 3 things for sure:

1) James Comey was fired for refusing to end the Russia investigation
2) Russia attempted to interfere with our election, whether Trump was involved or not
3) John McCain should be in a home.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:00 AM
 
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So we now know 3 things for sure:

1) James Comey was fired for refusing to end the Russia investigation
2) Russia attempted to interfere with our election, whether Trump was involved or not
3) John McCain should be in a home.
  1. Incorrect
  2. Irrelevant
  3. Agreed
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:03 AM
 
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McCain was a joke. Who voted this guy in?
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:06 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The only real takeaways:

1. Trump was never under FBI investigation.

2. There never was any collusion with the Russians.

3. This whole thing was nothing but a witch hunt against a Presidential administration.
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Old 06-09-2017, 06:08 AM
 
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please note that the intelligence community leadership is relying on conclusions made in reports to them - without them verifying or seeing the actual evidence. that is what Comey said - he hadn't seen the evidence. wikileaks let the world know that the CIA can hack systems and then make it look like someone else did it. the deep state desperately needs an evil doer to keep their funding going...

follow the money.
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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  • Trump was never under investigation per Comey.

  • Loretta Lynch influenced wording that Comey used with regards to Hilary Clinton's email controversy.

  • Regarding the conversation between Trump and Comey. He felt something was wrong, but did not tell the Attorney General - but did give his notes to a friend at the Columbia Law School (Daniel Richman) to leak to the press. He never took notes about his conversation with Loretta Lynch.

  • Trump "hoped" Flynn would be cleared, which does not violate the law.

  • Comey agreed that the three things Trump requested were (per Rubio) - number one, be loyal; number two, let the Mike Flynn thing go, he's a good guy, he's been treated unfairly; and, number three, can you please tell the American people what these leaders in Congress already know, what you already know, what you've told me three times -- that I'm not under -- personally under investigation?


  • The Russians never altered the election per Comey. They tried, but were unsuccessful.

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Old 06-09-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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So we now know 3 things for sure:

1) James Comey was fired for refusing to end the Russia investigation
2) Russia attempted to interfere with our election, whether Trump was involved or not
3) John McCain should be in a home.

1 Correct
2 Correct
3 Irrelevant
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Old 06-09-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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  • Loretta Lynch influenced wording that Comey used with regards to Hilary Clinton's email controversy.
Maybe I misheard but I don't think Comey used the word that Lynch suggested, which was "matter" versus "investigation."

She suggested in a room of people that they all come to an agreement on the terminology and asked everyone, included Comey, to call it a "matter. Comey didn't agree and as far as I know he used the word "investigation."

So while she asked, she didn't influence.
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Maybe I misheard but I don't think Comey used the word that Lynch suggested, which was "matter" versus "investigation."

She suggested in a room of people that they all come to an agreement on the terminology and asked everyone, included Comey, to call it a "matter. Comey didn't agree and as far as I know he used the word "investigation."

So while she asked, she didn't influence.
Transcript from yesterday responding to Sen. Burr...

Probably the only other consideration that I guess I can talk about in an open setting is, at one point, the attorney general had directed me not to call it an investigation, but instead to call it a matter, which confused me and concerned me.



Revisited by Sen. Lankford...

LANKFORD: And then you made a comment earlier about the attorney general -- previous attorney general -- asking you about the investigation on the Clinton e-mails, saying that you'd been asked not to call it an "investigation" anymore, but to call it a "matter."

And you had said that confused you. Can you give us additional details on that?

COMEY: Well, it concerned me, because we were at the point where we had refused to confirm the existence, as we typically do, of an investigation, for months, and it was getting to a place where that looked silly, because the campaigns were talking about interacting with the FBI in the course of our work.

The -- the Clinton campaign, at the time, was using all kind of euphemisms -- security review, matters, things like that, for what was going on. We were getting to a place where the attorney general and I were both going to have to testify and talk publicly about. And I wanted to know, was she going to authorize us to confirm we had an investigation?

And she said, yes, but don't call it that, call it a matter. And I said, why would I do that? And she said, just call it a matter.

And, again, you look back in hindsight, you think should I have resisted harder? I just said, all right, it isn't worth -- this isn't a hill worth dying on and so I just said, OK, the press is going to completely ignore it. And that's what happened.

When I said, we have opened a matter, they all reported the FBI has an investigation open. And so that concerned me because that language tracked the way the campaign was talking about FBI's work and that's concerning.

LANKFORD: It gave the impression that the campaign was somehow using the same language as the FBI, because you were handed the campaign language and told to be able (ph) to use the campaign language...

(CROSSTALK)

COMEY: Yeah -- and -- and again, I don't know whether it was intentional or not, but it gave the impression that the attorney general was looking to align the way we talked about our work with the way a political campaign was describing the same activity, which was inaccurate.

We had a criminal investigation open with -- as I said before, the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We had an investigation open at the time, and so that gave me a queasy feeling.

LANKFORD: Thank you.


You may be correct in what term he actually used to discuss the issue. But what is clear is that Lynch tried to obstruct - maybe not justice, not public opinion.
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Old 06-09-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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While there was no smoking gun, there was plenty to incriminate Trump. However, Trump and his most ardent supporters have set the bar of responsibility so low that they actually believe Trump was vindicated by Comey. We are past hoping that Trump will mature into his role or that his supporters will hold him accountable. Now, it's about the Republican-controlled Congress and whether they decide to continue to enable Trump in order to hold on to power. My guess is they will.
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