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Biden should have done what all sensible vice-presidents in past have; run for POTUS.
Obama may not have been the most popular POTUS in some quarters, but Joe Biden would have blown HC out of the water, and energized enough democratic voters to turn out that may have swung the election.
The whole DNC anointing of the Clinton Woman as the "only" choice for 2016, then using sharp elbows to clear the field is one large part of why DT is POTUS.
Sadly wiser heads in the DNC along with rank and file democrats *knew* just how much the electorate at large detested or at least didn't trust HC much less he Clintons in general. They simply were counting on how Obama won in 2012 striking lightening twice; that is the GOP nominating such a repulsive candidate that the democrat would win largely by default. Well things didn't work out that way.
This is fakenews from Politico. Politico is the only one reporting this, and as usual, cite "unnamed sources". And Biden denies the comments.
Anyone else notice that the only people obsessed with the election are the Trump cultists? Anything to draw attention away from the disaster in the White House. Everyone else has moved on, and is concentrating on ending our present national nightmare.
This is fakenews from Politico. Politico is the only one reporting this, and as usual, cite "unnamed sources". And Biden denies the comments.
Anyone else notice that the only people obsessed with the election are the Trump cultists? Anything to draw attention away from the disaster in the White House. Everyone else has moved on, and is concentrating on ending our present national nightmare.
Obama & Hillary said that she lost because of Russians. Both can't be True.
You are promoting a false narrative.
#1 - The Russian meddling was seen as a serious national security issue regardless of whether they preferred any one candidate over another. They could do it for any reason, without having a preference. Because of this the involvement of the Russians must be studied and procedures put in place to protect the integrity of elections -local and/or national- going forward.
#2 - IF the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian hackers to try and gain an advantage, in other words a quid pro quo, it would be a crime whether or not Mr Trump won and we would still be seeing an investigation. This is a separate issue from #1.
In other words, if Joe Biden, or Ted Cruz, or Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio (or anyone else, including Trump) was president right now we would still need to investigate the Trump campaign because of the contacts that have shown up. It doesn't matter that Trump won the election or that Clinton lost, the possible crime needs to be investigated.
#1 - The Russian meddling was seen as a serious national security issue regardless of whether they preferred any one candidate over another. They could do it for any reason, without having a preference. Because of this the involvement of the Russians must be studied and procedures put in place to protect the integrity of elections -local and/or national- going forward.
#2 - IF the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian hackers to try and gain an advantage, in other words a quid pro quo, it would be a crime whether or not Mr Trump won and we would still be seeing an investigation. This is a separate issue from #1.
In other words, if Joe Biden, or Ted Cruz, or Hillary Clinton or Marco Rubio (or anyone else, including Trump) was president right now we would still need to investigate the Trump campaign because of the contacts that have shown up. It doesn't matter that Trump won the election or that Clinton lost, the possible crime needs to be investigated.
No false narrative.
#1 Russian hacking happened under Obama's watch. They knew it was going on Why did he allow it?
#2 Trump did not collude with Russian hackers. So irrelevant.
#1 Russian hacking happened under Obama's watch. They knew it was going on Why did he allow it?
Everything known was after the fact. They didn't watch the hacking into state voter databases, as in most cases the states discovered the breaches, then investigated them to try and find out the perpetrators.
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Originally Posted by WaldoKitty
#2 Trump did not collude with Russian hackers. So irrelevant.
Whether Mr Trump personally colluded or not, there were multiple contacts between the campaign and the Russian government. These were discovered incidentally, while monitoring the Russians.
No other campaign had this. There were 16 other Republican campaigns, five Democratic campaigns, the Johnson campaign and the Stein campaign. None of the others had any contacts with the Russian government ... none of them.
The Trump campaign had multiple contacts at many levels over several months. Quite a coincidence.
It should be noted that up to this point it has been the campaign being investigated, not the man. If the man turns out to have tried to interfere or cover up the investigation into his campaign, that would be a separate crime.
Everything known was after the fact. They didn't watch the hacking into state voter databases, as in most cases the states discovered the breaches, then investigated them to try and find out the perpetrators.
Whether Mr Trump personally colluded or not, there were multiple contacts between the campaign and the Russian government. These were discovered incidentally, while monitoring the Russians.
No other campaign had this. There were 16 other Republican campaigns, five Democratic campaigns, the Johnson campaign and the Stein campaign. None of the others had any contacts with the Russian government ... none of them.
The Trump campaign had multiple contacts at many levels over several months. Quite a coincidence.
It should be noted that up to this point it has been the campaign being investigated, not the man. If the man turns out to have tried to interfere or cover up the investigation into his campaign, that would be a separate crime.
Did you believe a YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorist attack, too?
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