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Old 06-13-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Not while there's a federal law. Obama, Pelosi, and Reid had their chance. They blew it...
Nope. they lacked the votes.

 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Not their political belief. Supposedly, it's a Dem thing, but the Dems CHOSE to NOT decriminalize it when they had the Presidency, House, and Senate.
So, do you support Trump closing down the shops?
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Clearly we differ in our views.

One wonders how this country has gotten so polarized that rational educated people think completely differently on social, economic, and world views

I will say this, that the Democratic party leadership has turned hard left. So rational reasoned debate has become much more difficult. Yet the media and leftists try to claim the Republicans have turned hard right.
The reality is plain for anyone to see by looking at the (D) platform and the policies of Bill Clinton in the late 90's compared with today. There is no doubt the current crop of Democrats in office have gone hard left.
Yet if you look at the (R) platform and the policies of Bush, you can see that the (R's) are the same or if anything, more moderate.

This strikes liberals as false, but that is only because they are so far in left field, they have forgotten what moderate policies were like, not that long ago.
Ok.
I agree the Dems went too far left, but I disagree that the Repubs are in the least bit Moderate these days as a whole, especially when it comes to trump and sessions, trump is not political, his interests only revolve around himself, and sessions is as far right as one can get.
Yes, I do remember a day that while they argued and fought the Dems and Repubs could work things out, that changed around 2008 when the Repubs fought the Dem President tooth and nail and basically gave up on dialog or compromise. I remember more than one Bi-Partisan committee hashing out a compromise to pass a Bill and the Leadership of Both Parties refusing to approve it, happened time and time again. The government can barely pass a budget these days and the Repubs control both houses of Congress, in other words our government is broken and will either need to be repaired or discarded and rebuilt.
So, this is where we are, a majorly dysfunctional Family, something is going to have to give and I doubt it will be done in the courts, this is going to get very ugly. And Putin continues to laugh and laugh at how we eat our own, he plays chess and we are playing checkers. So much for the Grand Experiment, we became our own worst enemy, had to happen sooner or later, and with Trump the USA chose sooner. Is what it Is.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Nope. they lacked the votes.
BS. They crammed Obamacare down out throats via reconciliation. They could have decriminalized marijuana the same way.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Back and Beyond
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The backlash would be severe if sessions starts raiding cannabis dispensaries. I don't know why anyone thinks "cracking down on pot" is a good thing. This guy is a dinosaur and needs to go away.

Anyone whose against cannabis legalization is also against freedom. Simple as that.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:35 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Not to worry, Sessions days as AG are numbered, that is what happens when you tie you future to someone doomed to go down as one of the worst President in US history and of-course Lie like a pig in mud.
Sorry. Buchanan is safely at the bottom.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Gone
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Your education failed you miserably. This is NOT a state's rights issue. A state has NO RIGHT to make something legal that is illegal at the fed level. NONE, NADA, ZIP! I see you are too cowardly to answer the question about a state over riding the 2A federal laws. Can they do it? Can they make fully auto assault rifles legal to purchase without a background check and legal to carry? If they did, would the Feds have a say? If so, why?
Sorry, you are not qualified to critic my education, but I see you believe you are
Actually the State does have the Right to legalize something that the Feds say is illegal, there is nothing in the Constitution that forbids it, but I see you are now a Federal sheep instead of a States Rights Patriot, how things change.
You asked me nothing on the 2nd A, but since you bring it up I will remind you that there is a Constitution that overrides any law passed that violates that document. I am a firm believer in that document, but I have my doubts that you are.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
Presidency, House, Senate. Dems had that in 2009. They CHOSE to NOT decriminalize marijuana at the federal level.

What are you not understanding about that?
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Originally Posted by lvmensch View Post
They did not have the votes. So no they could not decriminalize.
They also never said they had any intention of legalizing pot, so I am not sure why the poster keeps whining about it.

He won't say if he supports Trump doing this, so I guess he is stuck talking about Obama.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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BS. They crammed Obamacare down out throats via reconciliation. They could have decriminalized marijuana the same way.
Nope. Lacked the votes within the party. Could not have gotten a unanimous party vote. Never had a chance of passing. And I suspect they would have gotten some Republican votes...but still not a majority in either house.
 
Old 06-13-2017, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Gone
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BS. They crammed Obamacare down out throats via reconciliation. They could have decriminalized marijuana the same way.
And the Repubs and Trump can fix both issues, we see that they are not, you won remember, so it is up to your boys to correct the problems of the past, they have done Neither.
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