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Huge protest going on right now. I expect it to be a full riot in a few hours. Those people are upset and rightfully so. I would be worried if I lived in any of the other tower blocks. They don't seem to be safe at all.
Glad they're making their voices heard. May waited until Friday to even bother to meet with the residents, and even then ran away when they rightfully heckled her - she's a disgrace.
Glad they're making their voices heard. May waited until Friday to even bother to meet with the residents, and even then ran away when they rightfully heckled her - she's a disgrace.
I don't think that she ran away, although she probably wouldn't have too happy to stay, her security detail must have decided that it was a tad dangerous, and that discretion was the better part of valour.
The people protesting, certainly the ones from North Kensington, had a genuine grievance, and quite rightly were demanding answers and reassurances, the rent-a-mob hangers on who'll go anywhere for the chance of stirring up trouble, will heckle anyone they recognise.
London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, a Socialist who had no involvement with the construction, or renovation of the tower, was heckled by the mob too, and had to be surrounded by a police cordon when he visited the scene of the fire.
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I don't think that she ran away, although she probably wouldn't have too happy to stay, her security detail must have decided that it was a tad dangerous, and that discretion was the better part of valour.
The people protesting, certainly the ones from North Kensington, had a genuine grievance, and quite rightly were demanding answers and reassurances, the rent-a-mob hangers on who'll go anywhere for the chance of stirring up trouble, will heckle anyone they recognise.
London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, a Socialist who had no involvement with the construction, or renovation of the tower, was heckled by the mob too, and had to be surrounded by a police cordon when he visited the scene of the fire.
I don't think she ran away either, she met with the emergency services on the Thurdsay, visited those in hospital on the friday as well as visiting the scene and is visiting the residence again today.
So that's four visits, in three days, which is hardly running away, and the Queen and Prince William have also visited the residence as have opposition politicians.
It also should be noted that people need time to grieve and do not always want politicians and and the media constantly in their faces, or to be part of some 24 hour rolling media coverage.
Theresa May has stated that there will be a full public inquiry, and the police are also investigating as are other safety agencies and there has been a fund set up, as well as a coordinated effort in respect of finding the survivors homes as close as possible to the area and securing them benefits. The Government has also set up an initial £5 million fund, and there are support groups and specialist police officers woring in the community.
It's not Theresa May's fault that tis has happened, indeed the problems relating to many tower blocks go all the way back to the 50's/60's and 70's and there have been numerous Governments over the years, indeed this tower block was one of the later ones having been built in 1973.
Thankfully many such Tower Blocks have now been demolished, but lets not forget that it was often Socialist Governments who erected these brutalist monstrosites in the first place, and that the houses they replaced were often better than the tower blocks. These Commie Blocks stabd as a legacy of socialism throughout Europe indeed Eastern Europe is littered with them, so to someone try to pin the blame on Theresa May and the Conservatives shows how stupid some left wingers really are.
She ran away. She wouldn't meet the residents to begin with, stating security concerns while the bloody Queen went and visited, and then she visited those in hospital who are obviously in no condition to talk back to her, and when she finally deigned to meet with the residents she couldn't handle the heckling. She left it too late to go see them, by that point they didn't want to see her, if she had turned up earlier then maybe they wouldn't have been so angry with her.
I don't think that she ran away, although she probably wouldn't have too happy to stay, her security detail must have decided that it was a tad dangerous, and that discretion was the better part of valour.
The people protesting, certainly the ones from North Kensington, had a genuine grievance, and quite rightly were demanding answers and reassurances, the rent-a-mob hangers on who'll go anywhere for the chance of stirring up trouble, will heckle anyone they recognise.
London's mayor, Sadiq Khan, a Socialist who had no involvement with the construction, or renovation of the tower, was heckled by the mob too, and had to be surrounded by a police cordon when he visited the scene of the fire.
Sadiq had the nerve to face his constituents, May had not. To say nothing of the Queen. When a 91-year old has more guts, you should pack it in as leader. (Admittedly, Lizzie has a chrome-vanadium backbone, always did.)
Did anyone memtion that the cladding was picked over a fire-retardant version to save about 6,500 pounds?
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Thankfully many such Tower Blocks have now been demolished, but lets not forget that it was often Socialist Governments who erected these brutalist monstrosites in the first place, and that the houses they replaced were often better than the tower blocks. These Commie Blocks stabd as a legacy of socialism throughout Europe indeed Eastern Europe is littered with them, so to someone try to pin the blame on Theresa May and the Conservatives shows how stupid some left wingers really are.
The current city government of Kensington and Chealsea - who owns the blocks - counts 42 conservatives among its 50 members. The penny-pinching "refurbishment" that seems to have added to the fire risk took place under their management. The cladding was, let's be frank, not installed to improve the quality of life for the tenants, but to make the blocks prettier for the (very) rich constituents also found in the borough.
Of course conservatives would love to tear down the blocks. The cost of land in London is tremendous, and those blocks are filled with poor people living where rich people would like to, an insufferable situation for a proper Tory. Conservatives could make a mint on building luxury dwellings on that land. Just don't pretend they're fueled by a desire to improve the lot of the tenants.
Of course, Boris Johnson (another Tory, how did you guess?) closed London's local fire departments left and right, because there hadn't been any large fires and so what was the point?
Exactly Dane_in_LA, the blame for this can't be laid on the original building of this tower block (and it was probably pretty good for containing fires when first built - concrete tower blocks tend to be good at that) but the lack of care of the building in recent years and the terrible renovation that put that death cladding there, and (possibly, don't think its confirmed yet) temporarily removed some fire safety features but failed to replace them.
The Daily Caller has to fish in the anti-EU waters, don't they?
First, there's no EU regulation that requires re-cladding. None. No really, there isn't.
Second, the cladding used was flammable, and chosen because it was cheap - the manufacturer specifically recommends against using it on high-rises.
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