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You're so far off it's not even funny. Find me someone cheering on this sick person. Good luck.
Don't pay much attention to Twitter, do you? Even a WaPo writer couldn’t contain his glee over the shootings.
It was disgusting.
I appreciate it might be tough for some of you supposedly "tolerant" libs to see one of your own go out and try to kill Republicans practicing for a charity baseball game. But too many of you made excuses for the shootings by blaming Trump. Too many of you celebrated on Twitter. And too many of you are criticizing the right for being justifiably pizzed off when some jackass who belongs to the Terminate the Republican Party group on Facebook really did try to terminate some Republicans.
And just a quick edit. It's interesting how quickly the MSM is trying to gloss over and make this story disappear down the memory hole. But you libs better believe Kathy Griffin holding Trump's head and James Hodgkinson holding his Terminate the Republican Party sign will be all over ads for the 2018 election.
I will give credit where it is due. Trump handled the situation after the attack yesterday very well acting very presidential. I have no issue with what he said or did on the matter. His refrain from rushing to a quick judgement before all the facts were known, his general calmness, and his call for unity were what was needed. His son and special advisor (KC) should have followed his lead. I just wish Trump had acted in a similar fashion after the London incident instead of engaging in an immature twitter war with the city's mayor in an attempt to politically exploit the situation.
I will give credit where it is due. Trump handled the situation after the attack yesterday very well acting very presidential. I have no issue with what he said or did on the matter. His refrain from rushing to a quick judgement before all the facts were known, his general calmness, and his call for unity were what was needed. His son and special advisor (KC) should have followed his lead. I just wish Trump had acted in a similar fashion after the London incident instead of engaging in an immature twitter war with the city's mayor in an attempt to politically exploit the situation.
I think more people are reigning in Trump in fears of impeachment. I think how he handled London sadly is his true nature. This was the corporate "P.C." answer.
If it was a planned assassination of Republican congressmen
It was.
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, those 24 individuals crouching in the dugout would be dead right now.
That would be true... except for the two Park Police officers who were assigned to cover Scalise due to his high rank in the House. The were in the parking lot, either in or near their car.
When they heard the shots, they came running to the field, but couldn't immediately get through the fence, there was only one entrance gate, some distance from where they were. Not the greatest mission prep in the world, but who is on High Alert during an early-morning practice for a charity baseball game? Minor hand slap to them for that.
So they pulled their guns and fired through the spaces in the wire (If the reports I saw were accurate). This distracted the shooter and pulled his attention away from the Republican players, thus saving many of their lives. I don't know if these Park Police injured the shooter. But he started shooting at them while they were shooting at him, and he injured both police officers. The officers displayed great courage and coolness under fire, and no doubt their actions saved many lives. They deserve a medal, plus more, for that.
Soon other Park Police and Alexandria Police showed up, fired on the shooter, gravely wounding him and ending the incident. He later died in the hospital. No one else has died, a stat the will hopefully remain true.
It was a situation where the bad guy got the first shots in, as usual, nobody was expecting an incident. He hit Scalise (did he hit anyone else on the field? The all hit the ground pretty fast, and/or dashed for cover). Scalise's guard in the parking lot started shooting at him, he shot back and injured both of them. The more police showed up and stopped him.
As usual, a bad guy with a gun was stopped by good guys with guns. Aside from the first victim (Scalise) he shot by complete surprise, I believe no others were injured except the police who arrived and shot back (is this true? How many victims were injured, and who were they?). The police did a great job of their fundamental duty to keep the public safe - they drew the shooter off the civilians and onto themselves, where he shot several of them but no more(?) of the civilians. My praise and respect for those cops is boundless.
The only armed good guys on the field were Scalise's two guards in the parking lot. If they hadn't been present, it could well have been a massacre. If there was a law saying no guns allowed on/near the field, the all of the Republican Congressmen were literally sitting ducks, all lined up where the gunman could have picked them off one at a time, with nothing between him and the (unarmed) victims. The killing could have gone on and on. And the shooter brought two guns an a LOT of ammo.
Any law forbidding guns at the field, was ignored by the gunman, of course. Only the law-abiding were disarmed, and thus ripe for the picking.
If there were no laws forbidding ordinary people from carrying guns had been in effect, probably most of the Congressmen probably wouldn't have bothered carrying anyway. But a few might have. And if the two Park Police guards hadn't been there, but one or two of the Congressmen had been carrying, would the ensuing "massacre" lasted as long as an unresisted one could have?
I think more people are reigning in Trump in fears of impeachment. I think how he handled London sadly is his true nature. This was the corporate "P.C." answer.
Same with not Tweeting during Comey's testimony. I think that the only way for Trump to survive is if he keeps it reigned in. However, that's a problem for him for the following reasons A) He's proven time and time again that while he can do it for a period, he can't sustain it. B) His base likes the angry, say what's on his mind character- that's part of why they voted for him. He risks alienating his base by becoming more P.C. But that doesn't matter- I don't think he can do it anyway.
I was going to ask the same question. I'd truly like to see what he/she views as "hateful rhetoric" out of Obama's mouth that he/she says is worst than the hateful rhetoric pouring out of Trumps.
FWIW, an assassination targets a specific person(s). All the info is not in, but it SEEMS that this was more of a mass shooting. "Kill as many as he could". I don't think it really matters what we label it, it's a horrible thing, but since you asked, I do think there is a difference.
Another interesting fact about this one:
Q: Do you know how we know the shooter was a white guy?
A: Because the race of the shooter was not mentioned in the reports. (So if you want to look at biased media, you might look at the racially biased reporting of all sides, left and right.)
why do you lie?
virtually every story featured that fact very prominently
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