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Old 06-14-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Originally Posted by lvmensch View Post
The Antifa is not progressive or left. It is anarchist and the doctrine is mostly libertarian. There is certainly violence from both the right and the left. We have a Bernie Sanders fan shooting at Republican legislators and a right winger slashing throats on a train. And we have regular skirmishes at demonstrations like last week in Portland.

I would tend tho agree that the authorities need to work up a way to deal with antifa...these well organized mobs of young men raining terror at demonstrations. But that is not a left/right issue.

And both the left and right need to tone it down on violence.
The Portland stabber was a Sanders fan as well.

Starting to see a theme here.....
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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And I'll just continue to say right after Trump does the same thing. He has never apologized for the violence of his supporters, violence he explicitly incited at his rallies and said he'd pay legal fees.
Violence? What Trump supppoters have done shootings? What Trump supporter spit in a girls face? Which Trump supporters hit people with bike locks? Which Trump supporters made up fake hate crimes?


Partial List of Real Crimes;

young white, mentally ill male kidnapped, beaten, tortured, forced to drink toilet water, and threatened with death, as his kidnappers scream about Trump and repeatedly insist that he denounce Trump and white people; his kidnappers livestreamed their racist hate crime on Facebook as if it was perfectly natural -- http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/227116738-story69 year old woman left with bloody head wound after 27 year old man brutally beats her with a chair for supporting Trump, tolerant leftist charged with attempted homicide -- http://www.observer-reporter.com/20161201/election_argument_ends_with_assault_donora_police_ say
15 year-old punched and kicked by several classmates for wearing MAGA hat, punched, thrown to the ground and kicked, charges filed -- http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/maryland/student-attacked-for-wearing-trump-hat-at-anti-trump-protest-parent-says/352788338
man beaten by multiple assailants for voting Trump as they taunt him -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ4_zVa2Uw4 (his description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHWNV-6urmU)
hispanic man chased and beaten by a mob for wearing MAGA hat -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRSrH5SxADk
11 year old elementary student beaten by classmates, left in crutches, for voting Trump in mock election -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IIYjMEbYHc
Trump supporter shot during political argument -- http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/27/paul-jones-trump-supporter-shot-at-cleveland-bar-d/
female in high school being beaten by another student for posting pro-Trump Instagram comment, as classmates cheer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgHt0s2UQHQ
British national tries to assassinate Donald Trump, tries to steal gun from Las Vegas police officer at Trump rally -- http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/19/politics/trump-rally-gun-police-officer/

bloody violence against Trump supporters outside San Jose rally -- https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/anti-police rioters kicking a homeless man for being white near anti-police riot, all cheer -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4tdiYJNLNI
anti-police protestors beat reporter unconscious, then try to drag him into a fire, because they're mad -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoY62-ipkfk
man left bloody for attending a Trump rally, rocks thrown at cars, etc, in Costa Mesa. 17 arrests from the riot. -- https://youtu.be/8K1wEgDdO64
two men beat Trump supporter for holding sign, police intervene to save him -- http://fox61.com/2016/11/12/meriden-officer-stops-assault-on-man-with-trump-sign-2-arrested/
62 year old man beaten with crowbar for wearing Trump shirt, in front of witnesses -- http://www.nj.com/essex/index.ssf/2016/08/man_attacked_by_stranger_who_questioned_his_trump. html
mob of anti-police rioters attacking a young white man, cheering as they beat, drag and strip him -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yYARGFKbM
high school student beaten into critical condition for posting BlueLivesMatter on Facebook. Police arrest four men who previously attended his High School -- http://www.al.com/news/anniston-gadsden/index.ssf/2016/10/sylacauga_police_arrest_4_in_c.html
young woman beaten with clubs as she's trapped against a barricade -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zigUqiIakk

Trump incites "hate", yeah there's so much it has to be made it up....a lot;

(498) Attack on Muslim woman in Columbus, Ohio which was assumed to be because of her religion was instead just a neighborhood dispute that led to a fight. (Archive) 6/3/2017
(497) German military man plotted to assasinate a public figure and blame it on a Syrian migrant. (Archive) 5/9/2017
(496) Note with slurs against black people posted at St. Olaf College in Minnesota was actually posted by the black student who reported it. (Archive) 4/29/2017
(495) Antifa members posed as free speech supporters giving the Hitler salute during a rally at University of California, Berkeley. (Archive) 4/20/2017
(494) Black man set fire to, and left racist note in front of an Indian/Nepali market invoking Trump's name and signed the letter as White America. (Archive) 4/7/2017
(493) Black Tesla employee lied about racial insults from coworkers after he was denied a promotion for posting pictures of confidential Tesla technology online. (Archive) 3/27/2017
(492) Black lawyer for the International Court of Justice accused the Hague police for racially motivated brutality. Video surveillance showed no such thing. (Archive) 3/26/2017
(491) Black teen staged hoax attack at pro-Trump rally, used picture from 2014. (Archive) 3/25/2017
(490) Black teen staged hoax attack at pro-Trump rally, used picture from 2013. (Archive) 3/25/2017
(489) Diversity Leadership Council at Adolphus College spread hateful flyers around campus, blaming white people, in an effort to spread "awareness". (Archive) 3/24/2017
(488) Jewish Israeli behind dozens of threats against Jewish centers across America. (Archive) 3/23/2017
(487) Black man spray painted racist, mysogynistic and anti-gay graffiti which read "Go back to hell, black women" on several churches in Charleston, South Carolina including a library named after a woman killed by Dylann Roof. (Archive) 3/13/2017
(486) Gay man lied about being the victim of an anti-gay attack in Madison Square Garden. When police reviewed surveillance video, it showed the attack never happened. (Archive) 3/12/2017
(485) Black men spray painted KKK around Newark, New Jersey. (Archive) 3/12/2017
(484) Threatening graffiti at East Jefferson High School in Louisiana implicating white students was actually done by one Hispanic and one Indian student. (Archive) 3/10/2017
(483) Muslim professor at Indiana State University was the culprit behind anti-Muslim emails sent to himself and others. He also falsely reported he was physically attacked. (Archive) 3/8/2017
(482) White woman in Denison, Oklahoma who wandered into a church bloodied and wearing only a bra and underwear lied that it was the result of three black men kidnapping and raping her. (Archive) 3/8/2017
(481) Muslim American citizen, Khizr Khan claimed Trump's travel ban prevented him from traveling to Canada which is impossible because it didn't target citizens. (Archive) 3/7/2017
(480) Canadian man of Lebanese descent called in fake bomb threats against Muslim students at Concordia University. (Archive) 3/7/2017
(479) Overturning of headstones at a Jewish New York cemetary ended up being caused by environmental erosion. (Archive) 3/6/2017
(478) Latino man from Brooklyn, New York spray painted swastikas, "KKK", "Mexican go home" in bathrooms at Penn Station. (Archive) 3/5/2017
(477) Black Muslim who formerly worked for the Intercept called in bomb threats to Jewish centers around the country. (Archive) 3/4/2017
(476) Muslim internment-style posters found on UCSD campus were the work of an activist. (Archive) 3/1/2017
(475) Non-white developmentally disabled student drew multiple swastikas around Lakeville South High School in Minneapolis, Minnesota. (Archive) 2/28/2017
(474) Two black students spray painted racist and vulgar graffiti around Plano West Senior High School in Texas. (Archive) 2/27/2017
(473) Hate crime hoax perpetrated on Trump supporting radio host. (Archive) 2/13/2017
(472) Two brothers in Manhattan lied about being beaten by Neo-Nazis with brass knuckles. (Archive) 2/11/2017
(471) Jewish man spray painted swastikas on his home in Schenectady, New York. (Archive) 2/10/2017
(470) Singer Jason Derulo claimed American Airlines discriminated against him because he was black at Miami International Airport. It was instead because he tried to check 19 bags after the check-in period was closed and started an altercation over the bill. (Archive) 2/8/2017
(469) Emails which contained racist and anti-Semitic language coming from a professor at the University of Michigan were actually spoofed. (Archive) 2/8/2017
(468) Muslim American olympian claimed she was detained at the airport due to Trump's travel ban. It was a random detention and it happened in December 2016 when Barack Obama was President. (Archive) 2/7/2017
(467) University at Buffalo student lied about being sexually assaulted. Police found the event never happened. (Archive) 2/6/2017
(466) Student at Beloit College in Wisconsin spray painted his own dorm door with racial and religious slurs. (Archive) 2/2/2017
(465) Iraqi Muslim claimed his mother died due to medical problems while having to wait due to Trump's travel ban. Investigators found she died before the ban was enacted. (Archive) 2/1/2017
(464) Black woman in Cayuga County, New York falsely accused a police officer of using racial slurs when pulling her over. The encounter was recorded and no such actions took place. (Archive) 1/29/2017
(463) Student at Capital University lied about a racist and anti-gay note taped to the back of his door of his dorm. Police found he wrote the note himself and had been filing false police reports of assaults for two years. (Archive) 1/26/2017
(462) Man kicked and berated Muslim stweardess aboard a Delta Airlines flight while invoking Trump's name. Media ignored his entire political giving history was to Democrats who oppose Trump's policies. (Archive) 1/25/2017
(461) Jewish liquor store owner claimed his store was robbed, set on fire, and had anti-Jewish graffiti spray panted on it. Police later found out he staged the entire event. (Archive) 1/21/2017
(460) Austrian girl claimed people threw her on train tracks because she was Muslim. Video evidence proved it never happened. (Archive) 1/19/2017
(459) Viral video which showed a Muslim student at Washburn High School in Minneapolis, Minnesota punching a white student for trying to pull off her hijab was staged. (Archive) 1/13/2017
(458) Arundel high school student in Baltimore, MD made false KKK threat against school. (Archive) 1/11/2017
(457) Arab man spray painted anti-Arab grafitti on an Arab family's garage door. (Archive) 1/10/2017
(456) Waitress in Ashburn, Virginia faked racist note with on receipt with no tip that read "great service don't tip black people". (Archive) 1/7/2017
(455) Man who was arrested for threatening to kill members of a Bellevue, Washington mosque and shouting "There is no place in America for Muslims" was himself a Muslim. (Archive) 1/6/2017
(454) Texas hunters who accidentally shot each other blamed it on illegal immigrants. (Archive) 1/6/2017
(453) 13 Year old boy spray painted swastikas around his town of Esperance, New York. Everyone assumed it was a hate crime wave, the boy only did it because he saw it in a video game and it was easy to draw. (Archive) 1/1/2017
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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great point because...well you know how much Bernie Sanders promoted an armed insurrection and fought so hard to make assault weapons available to his minions
Yes indeed. Bernie was all about that.
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Not sure if you've been paying attention lately, but a man in NYC was stabbed to death by a white man from Baltimore with a sword, saying "I came to New York to kill as many black people as I can."

Also, a Portland, Oregon right-wing racist stabbed two people to death on a commuter train after screaming racist and religious insults at two teenage girls.


bmw335xi, do you care to acknowledge that? Or do you want to hold onto your idea that only "the far left" commits crazy crimes?

Or do you have the decency and integrity to admit that the far right has an extremist problem too?
Well - that doesn't fit into the narrative so it won't be mentioned.

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In my view, it doesn't matter which political side you're on, violence is inexcusable.
Most common sense people agree totally.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Maybe *you* could be the dick head that ends it first by knocking off with your petty little snipes in his thread. Just an idea.
Personal.

Noted.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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Hmm, according to you all, Obama is from Kenya...
Haha! Got 'em!
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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In my view, it doesn't matter which political side you're on, violence is inexcusable.
Just your opinion. Most on the left would disagree violently. Hell, the entire leftist agenda is based on violence!
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Personal.

Noted.
It's not personal at all. I used the same exact pejorative that you did.

How ya like them apples?
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:55 AM
 
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And what violence is that Obot? In what fantasy world you do live?

I guess you didn't see the old man with a pony tail hit someone?
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The Portland stabber was a Sanders fan as well.

Starting to see a theme here.....
Nonsense. He was photographed at the prior pro Trump rally in Portland.
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Old 06-14-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Add to that, Bernie Sanders has already released a public statement saying how disgusted he was to find out such a hideous act was committed by a former volunteer of his.

Not to name names, but not every politician is known for addressing situations like that.
It's nice that Bernie released a statement, but completely unnecessary. He didn't give orders or ask his supporters to do what the criminal did. Every group has it's extremists. I really don't expect Trump or Hillary or Bernie to take responsibility for the acts of the deranged.
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