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Old 06-15-2017, 05:13 AM
 
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I am asking why is it that "liberals" that hate violence did not hold Obama accountable for his violence? It's a simple question that you want to take personally.

Why did they not hold Obama accountable for his violence enacted upon thousands of people that did nothing to us and how is what the guy that did what he did yesterday worse than what Obama did?

What did you want us to do?

Name a president and I'll name something he did to hurt or kill others for the betterment of America's bottom line.

Don't think Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. are any different in their wish to profit from war. Again, why are you blaming all of us??? Our entire system is broken and that's not really our fault either.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:13 AM
 
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Does it matter his intent? He said it and some took it to be a threat against another American. If one took it seriously and acted upon it, does intent matter? And does that paint all conservatives as violent or just the one who actually did the shooting?
I think all of these guys need to tone down their rhetoric. Trump in particular doesn't seem to understand that a politician's words carry a tremendous amount of weight.

This election has brought out the weirdos like I've never seen before. On both sides.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:17 AM
 
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Are you honestly saying that the same type of people don't exist on the right? WOW.
they were specifically referencing their own relatives

are you claiming to know that poster's relatives better than they do?
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:17 AM
 
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What did you want us to do?
Not re-elect him. I understand the first time absolutely. He said all the right things but then did all the opposite. People blindly accepted it and voted for it.

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Name a president and I'll name something he did to hurt or kill others for the betterment of America's bottom line.
I don't disagree.

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Don't think Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, etc. are any different in their wish to profit from war. Again, why are you blaming all of us??? Our entire system is broken and that's not really our fault either.
It is. We re-elect them and make excuses for them. We knew what Hillary was. A bought off war monger. Still, she was the party nominee. How and why?
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:19 AM
 
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they were specifically referencing their own relatives

are you claiming to know that poster's relatives better than they do?
I know exactly who they were talking about. That wasn't my point!!! The point was that idiots and crazies can be found in ALL GROUPS.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:19 AM
 
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That is not the right attitude to have.
Did you call people nitwits in a loving tone?
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:21 AM
 
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Not re-elect him. I understand the first time absolutely. He said all the right things but then did all the opposite. People blindly accepted it and voted for it.



I don't disagree.



It is. We re-elect them and make excuses for them. We knew what Hillary was. A bought off war monger. Still, she was the party nominee. How and why?
Couple reasons.

The DNC cheated. The establishment DNC are tone deaf and quickly becoming irrelevant. They just don't know it yet. But they love their Clintons.

The media ignored all of the candidates except for Hillary and Trump.

The black vote solidly went to Hillary in the primary.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:22 AM
 
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Not re-elect him. I understand the first time absolutely. He said all the right things but then did all the opposite. People blindly accepted it and voted for it.
Not re-electing him isn't a plausible answer unless you can provide a positive action (as in, something one CAN do, instead of NOT do) as a replacement. I ask again, what did you want us to do? I knew how very moderate Obama really was, even with all the noise of the right wing news and talking heads telling me opposite. But I did agree with several of his policies and I also believed he was intelligent and was a good representative of our country to the rest of the world.







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It is. We re-elect them and make excuses for them. We knew what Hillary was. A bought off war monger. Still, she was the party nominee. How and why?


How? DNC chose her.

Why? Because they had the power to do so and don't listen to their voters. Which puts us patriotic voters in an untenable position.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:23 AM
 
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Did you call people nitwits in a loving tone?
It wasn't hateful.

I wish no bad on them.

I just think they are crazy. I needed another word for crazy.
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Old 06-15-2017, 05:25 AM
 
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Not re-electing him isn't a plausible answer unless you can provide a positive action (as in, something one CAN do, instead of NOT do) as a replacement. I ask again, what did you want us to do? I knew how very moderate Obama really was, even with all the noise of the right wing news and talking heads telling me opposite. But I did agree with several of his policies and I also believed he was intelligent and was a good representative of our country to the rest of the world.
He blew the **** out of much of the world. That is NOT being a good representative.

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How? DNC chose her.

Why? Because they had the power to do so and don't listen to their voters. Which puts us patriotic voters in an untenable position.
There were better choices that one could have made but decided not to.
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