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They're not becoming more liberal, they're becoming leftist, as in anti-capitalism and if it hadn't been for Hillary and the DNC, it could have happened here too with Bernie.
You bet. Once again, the United States leads the world, by providing en essential example of the disaster that awaits any nation that embraces alt-right nationalism. When Trump shouts, "America first and America only!", they take notice and put down this social disease, before it engulfs them.
When did Trump say "America only"?
If you cannot point out and prove exactly when and where he said it, then you are a liar.
How can any free people look to similar nationalist/conservative movements as Trump's and see that it is anything less than an unmitigated disaster. Maybe one of the only benefits of having him as president.
You are a victim of the MSM indoctrination which has been projected to the world as truth. It's only logical that this would have a negative effect on conservative party elections abroad.
I don't think you guys realize what it really means that Le Pen got the support that she did in a country like France.
Then again, most Americans view Europe through the lens of the globalist controlled USA MSM.
I'm European. (The user name clues in most people.) And if you haven't noticed, something drastic happened to Le Pen's support between the Presidential election and the parliamentary one.
Unless, of course, the globalist controlled MSM yaddayadda simply made up the parliamentary results, there are dumber theories being bandied about.
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Silver was NEVER enthusiastically predicting a Hillary win. Throughout the campaign he was more cautious, his predictions far more balanced - and he was criticized for his less then positive belief in the outcome. Never did he say 90% like some.
It was clear to me from Nate's comments over the campaign he had a gut-level reservation/concern. Comey's last minute resurrection of the Hillary email issue tipped the scale. There is no doubt.
Trump is a stupid and ludicrous liar, bully and buffoon. The much wiser and more intelligent and better educated Europeans - even the lower classes - WHO KNOW THEIR HISTORY (unlike the ignoramuses in the US) - will not fall for his crap or anyone who sounds remotely like him.
Although, gotta say, Trump is the poster child for the obscene in politics. The European r-wingers don't even come close in outlandish lies, unfounded accusations, sheer boorishness, nastiness, stupidity, and crudeness. He is the founder of the hate in our current political environment and has done NOTHING to reverse that. He continues with the unfounded name calling, reckless accusations, stupid attacks - all based only on his "beliefs" - not credible evidence.
Trump couldn't have done more to set back the ignorance movement if he'd tried.
Of course, Trump would have that effect. He is like one of those husbands that so turns off his wife that she turns gay. Trump is just turning off anybody identifying as or being a conservative.
Trump is no conservative and he is surely not a Republican; he simply hijacked their party in 2016. He is nothing more than an apolitical narcissistic thug for whom being POTUS is simply an opportunity to stroke his bloated ego. True conservatives are surely getting reamed because they will be tainted by the memory of Trump for generations to come.
Also, Trump might have made the voters feel the need for an even stronger Europe (Brexit, too - and even after Brexit vote, lots of english voters woke up with a serious hangover as in "what? nobody told me angry votes could have serious consequences" ), and Macron was the most openly pro EU candidate.
This. Europe is getting a very strong sense that US foreign policy is flapping in the wind. Good time to shore up one's own alliances.
They're not becoming more liberal, they're becoming leftist, as in anti-capitalism and if it hadn't been for Hillary and the DNC, it could have happened here too with Bernie.
It has nothing to do with Trump.
Huh? Macron and Merkel are anti-capitalist? You know they are for more immigration, for more open and free trade policies, for less government. Merkel is campaigning for tax cuts. Heck Macron in France is even taking on the Unions.
The Conservative's responses in this thread are hilarious....totally predictable too.
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), and Macron was the most openly pro EU candidate.
