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Old 06-15-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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I remember very well how Republicans reacted. Trump himself was a birther, it's how he got his national launch. Remember Orly Taitz? Remember Trump's "investigators in Hawaii that couldn't believe what they were finding"? Republicans did not accept Obama's election at all. They determined to oppose him on everything from the night of his inauguration then went straight to calling him a Muslim and a Kenyan. I have no problem with Democrats who are so inclined to protest if they want to. Trump himself called for protests when Obama was re-elected. I don't think anyone condones violence, however what is the problem with marching? What is wrong with Trump getting a taste of the dish he served for years?
Yeah, that's just as bad as shooting Republican congressmen. ,,,<sarcasm>
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:44 AM
 
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I consider myself a moderate Democrat.

I was so disappointed in my Democrat party for showing what sore losers we were while the Republicans were showing such outstanding good behavior.

Things were fine until we went far left and got involved with socialism and globalism which brought out the ugly violence you see today. Socialism so often is connected with violence and is seen as a tool for change. The real tools are the people who won't listen to us moderates. The only way to stop them is to enforce the laws and make them pay the price for their crimes.

I just hate what they have done to my party. I don't have any friends anymore. They don't want to be around me thinking I'm like all the rest of the violent Democrats. They won't even let me hold their babies because they are afraid I'll go off the deep end and bash their heads against the cement steps. I had to stop wearing the planed parent tee shirts but it didn't help.
I'm thinking of leaving the party like all my friends did. I'm so sad but I'm a coward and won't harm myself. I'm a victim.
Is this...serious? I can't quite tell.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:47 AM
 
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What do you think of the radical Democrats who won't accept the election results and march in the streets siting violence to the point of what happened today?
Do you mean *citing*?
Moderate Dem here.
I feel no connection or obligation to defend bitter or deranged Berners.

Any idiot with a gun can shoot at people while espousing deranged political views. Even I know that doesn't mean Bernie or Berners are to blame.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:52 AM
 
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What do you think of the radical Democrats who won't accept the election results and march in the streets siting violence to the point of what happened today?

You have to admit Republicans accepted the election results when Obama was elected even though we did not like it and thought he was not doing things right for the country. No marching in the streets and tearing up and burning down things on campuses.

What do you say to the radicals you know and how do you think they can be stopped from all the marching and violence? You know this just destroys your party. How did the radical left take over your party?
You're really overestimating how much these people identify themselves as Democrats.

You're also completely missing their point. No one questions that Trump won the election. They just think he should be impeached and removed from power for various reasons.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:54 AM
 
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Yeah, that's just as bad as shooting Republican congressmen. ,,,<sarcasm>
He sounds not much different than the guy that shot Gabby Giffords. No one condones it. But to say Republicans accepted Obama's election? That's just not true. They spent eight years trying to delegitimize him and Trump had a very heavy hand in that. Now he's seeing the other side.
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Old 06-15-2017, 12:58 AM
 
Location: My House
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What do you think of the radical Democrats who won't accept the election results and march in the streets siting violence to the point of what happened today?

You have to admit Republicans accepted the election results when Obama was elected even though we did not like it and thought he was not doing things right for the country. No marching in the streets and tearing up and burning down things on campuses.

What do you say to the radicals you know and how do you think they can be stopped from all the marching and violence? You know this just destroys your party. How did the radical left take over your party?
Well, I'm a moderate, but I'm not a Democrat. Or a Republican. I'm fairly liberal, as moderates go, so let me attempt to give you an answer.

I don't mind that Democrats, or anyone else for that matter, choose to protest Trump. If they disagree with him, they have the Constitutional right to protest. If their protests get out of hand, they'll get arrested. That's how that has always worked.

I don't think that those protests have much to do with a mentally unstable guy choosing to shoot Congresspeople while they played baseball. I condemn that type of violence from anyone.

I don't have to "admit that Republicans accepted..." anything. The Birther movement sprung right up after Obama was elected and it was spearheaded by Donald J. Trump. So, do with that what you like, but there were plenty of protests against Obama and that man was hounded the whole time he was in office about his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Good grief, how short memories seem to be.

I don't think anyone can be stopped from marching, as long as marching is legal. If they are violent, they'll be arrested. I don't condone violence, like I said. It's not something I think should be present in a civilized society.

Since I'm not part of the party itself, I cannot comment on whether or not I think anything took over the Democratic party, but since the Republican party seems to have been hijacked by Trump (who is no more a Republican than I am), I guess everyone's party has some work to do, eh?

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Old 06-15-2017, 12:59 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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He sounds not much different than the guy that shot Gabby Giffords. No one condones it. But to say Republicans accepted Obama's election? That's just not true. They spent eight years trying to delegitimize him and Trump had a very heavy hand in that. Now he's seeing the other side.
Where the protest march riots complete with vandalism, looting, burning, and other violence? Where was the blocking roads/highways in protest of Obama? Where were the GOP supporters yelling insults and spitting on Obama supporters at Obama rallies?

You really don't see how violent Democrats have become?
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:04 AM
 
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Where the protest march riots complete with vandalism, looting, burning, and other violence?
No one condones violence but Obama protesters were not peaceful and the images they depicted of him were not peaceful either. It seems Republicans really are surprised to see the other side. This is what it looks like. Trump is seeing the other side too. I have no illusions that he will some day apologize but it is good for him to see what division creates since he had such a heavy hand in it. Trump literally ran on division.
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:07 AM
 
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No one condones violence but Obama protesters were not peaceful
BS. Show us the following:

The anti-Obama protest march riots complete with vandalism, looting, burning, and other violence

The blocking of roads/highways in protest of Obama

GOP supporters yelling insults and spitting on Obama supporters at Obama rallies

You really don't see how violent Democrats have become? Remaining in denial will just cause Dems to keep losing more and more elections. If that's what you want, fine. /shrug
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Old 06-15-2017, 01:09 AM
 
Location: My House
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Where the protest march riots complete with vandalism, looting, burning, and other violence? Where was the blocking roads/highways in protest of Obama? Where were the GOP supporters yelling insults and spitting on Obama supporters at Obama rallies?

You really don't see how violent Democrats have become?
Maybe they're catching up with Ted Nugent?

I guess the idea that Democrats aren't "limp-wristed snowflakes" really cheeses off the "tough guy" party?

I am genuinely baffled by this.

You have seen looting and riots before, no?

Why does this bother you? I have seen footage of people getting beaten up at Trump rallies while Trump offered to pay the legal fees of the people doing the beating.

Did that bother you? It should have bothered you. It should bother you more than some kids at a liberal college breaking windows or trying to stop someone from speaking there.
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