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Old 06-17-2017, 08:47 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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You don't know if any evidence has been found. None of us here do.
Even Comey - a guy that was fired by Trump - stated last week that there is no evidence that Russian influence changed any votes in the Nov. 8 election. Comey also stated that a key New York Times article alleging Trump-Russia collusion was completely false. Anonymous sources are notably untrustworthy. The Sessions hearing also showed up - nothing.

The pattern of this "investigation" is all smoke and mirrors.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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What is the point of all the BS crap the left is doing?

How many millions of $$ are being wasted on the smoke?


Seriously, when will it end?
They will keep digging until they find something.
Maybe Trump called other kids some names, while he was in elementary school....
"IMPEACH HIM!"
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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What is the point of all the BS crap the left is doing?

How many millions of $$ are being wasted on the smoke?


Seriously, when will it end?
It would have never started except he withheld the taxes- high fived Putin- and has every member of his crew associated deep with russians-- please- he says one thing --the staff says another- and then he makes them all like fools-- he fires anyone who disagrees or takes away from his highness- and most of his work has been to UNDO Obama's legacy-and some via knee jerk reactions- most leaks come from his own people- and fake news flourishes or it is just smoking mirrors 24-7 - there is not one week go by that you can be certain of where he stands on any issue.
Open and transparent -- he gets a - minus 500 score-
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You are making a lot of assumptions that are not in evidence.

First, Trump has said the convo re Flynn didn't happen, so until you hear his version, you really cant say what happened.

Second, I don't believe Trump fired Comey to stop the Flynn or any other investigation.

Comey's testimony is now ALL suspect since he and Session's testimony conflict on several points and Sessions seems to have an email trail and witnesses to back him up.
Why do you think that? Trump himself said that's why he fired Comey.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:27 AM
 
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What is the point of all the BS crap the left is doing?

How many millions of $$ are being wasted on the smoke?


Seriously, when will it end?
If tRump has nothing to hide why all the subterfuge,just let the investigation proceed nothing will be found and it can all be laid to rest.but Trump is acting like hes hiding something.Ultimately tRump is his own worst enemy trashing the media results in a hostile adversarial media, trashing the intel community has the intel community on his case like a pack of pit bulls,trashing and demeaning Democrats has the Democrats hoping for his downfall,hes irked allies such as Australia,France,England,Germany,Canada, And hes wondering why every one hates him,hes just a loud mouth bully who is losing friends and support at an alarming rate.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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You are making a lot of assumptions that are not in evidence.

First, Trump has said the convo re Flynn didn't happen, so until you hear his version, you really cant say what happened.
Trump is a pathological liar so Comey's testimony is far more reliable than his.

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Second, I don't believe Trump fired Comey to stop the Flynn or any other investigation.
And yet he publicly admitted on national television that's why he fired Comey, so you're clearly ignoring the facts that Trump himself has presented.

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Comey's testimony is now ALL suspect since he and Session's testimony conflict on several points and Sessions seems to have an email trail and witnesses to back him up.
Sessions corroborated Comey's testimony, and Sessions is already guilty of perjury, so again Comey is more reliable.


You're blatantly ignoring facts just to defend Trump. It truly makes no sense.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:34 AM
 
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They will keep digging until they find something.
Maybe Trump called other kids some names, while he was in elementary school....
"IMPEACH HIM!"
If Trump personally admitted he colluded with Russia, you guys would still defend him.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Trump is a crooked business man and he is a crooked (and failed) politician

Why are you people so afraid of what will be found by kicking over Trump's rocks?
Honestly I don't really care too much at this point what they find out about Trump. He has put himself into a position where he will have zero credibility within the government and with the great majority of the American people, not to mention the world at large. He can flail and tweet and rant and flounder but you know what? We have his number by this time. The Congress is not going to let him destroy the nation, that is obvious. The Republicans are sticking by him at this point through their words - but talk is cheap. If Trump really tried to pull off a coup or tried to start a war, or tried to undermine freedom of speech or assembly - Congress would stop him in a heartbeat. They are not stupid, they do understand that to get re-elected they have to protect the nation. For their jobs to exist at all they need to preserve the nation, no way they are going to let Trump destroy at will.

The bigger issue is what they will find out about the Russian election tampering. This was an act of war, it was a direct violation of our sovereignty, and we must understand at a deep level how it happened, and determined how we will stop it from happening in the future. Whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians in this tampering is almost unimportant. Because he is a lame duck regardless, and Congress will curb his blundering from doing too much damage. Putin is the one we need to focus on.

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Old 06-17-2017, 09:53 AM
 
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Why do you think that? Trump himself said that's why he fired Comey.
Trump has NEVER EVER said that. He said he was thinking about the investigation when he fired him.

The liberal mainstream media told you all to assume he meant he was firing Comey to shut down the investigation and like good little sheeple ya'll just keep bleating that soundbite.

Trump fired Comey because he wouldn't clear him publicly like he had done privately.

Otherwise, ask yourself why Trump didn't simultaneously order the investigation shut down.
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:56 AM
 
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Trump is a pathological liar so Comey's testimony is far more reliable than his.

And yet he publicly admitted on national television that's why he fired Comey, so you're clearly ignoring the facts that Trump himself has presented.



Sessions corroborated Comey's testimony, and Sessions is already guilty of perjury, so again Comey is more reliable.


You're blatantly ignoring facts just to defend Trump. It truly makes no sense.
Nope he did not admit that on tv. That's just what the media told you to hear.

Sessions is not guilty of perjury......again what the media told you to think.

Comey's testimony is not reliable when it is disputed by a paper trail and two other witnesses.......sorry but that just doesn't fly. Not to mention his agenda is now highly suspect.
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