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Old 06-17-2017, 08:42 PM
 
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Eight politically motivated Benghazi investigations yielded- NOTHING

One Trump investigation, with conservative Republicans investigating Trump for crimes, and the Trump cultists are already complaining, and screaming FAKENEWS even though even Trump has admitted he's being investigated for criminal wrongdoing.
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Old 06-17-2017, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Why, when they can get their information from Infowars.
Or if you are the President "Fox & Friends".
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Old 06-18-2017, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Its always curious to me why Petraeus is never mentioned in pushing the flat out lie. After all it was the CIA's initial assessment that connected Benghazi to the video and the spontaneous attack.

The CIA admitted their initial assessment was wrong within 3 weeks of the attack. Yet that didn't stop the Republicans using the attack for political purposes until Nov 2016. In fact it would seem they still haven't acknowledged what their own investigations had shown.
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You do know that their was a call for demonstrations at the US embassy in Cairo over the video don't you? That during those demonstrations at the US embassy in Cairo the walls were breached. By Friday of that week there had been demonstrations over the video in some 40 countries and some people were killed in those demonstrations.

Feel free to characterize Muslims however you feel inclined, but it is a fact that there were demonstrations and people were killed. It just so happens what occurred in Benghazi was not over the video. However, it probably does explain partially why the CIA got it wrong in their initial assessment.

BTW it wasn't just someone stating something it was the agency that the US government relies on to make such assessments.
uhm... it was the CIA who was doing the weapons runnings....A 35 CIA operative team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

The Obama administration’s “Arab Spring” was looking for changes through-out the middle-eastand the CIA under the direction of Obama and hillary started helping Arab governments and Turkey obtain and ship weapons to the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.


sorry but using the CIA as an excuse for the lies that came out of the obozo admin.... you make yourself look like a partisan hack
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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uhm... it was the CIA who was doing the weapons runnings....A 35 CIA operative team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

The Obama administration’s “Arab Spring” was looking for changes through-out the middle-eastand the CIA under the direction of Obama and hillary started helping Arab governments and Turkey obtain and ship weapons to the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.


sorry but using the CIA as an excuse for the lies that came out of the obozo admin.... you make yourself look like a partisan hack
The CIA supplied guns to rebels, I have never heard this happen in our past we must put an end to this
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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uhm... it was the CIA who was doing the weapons runnings....A 35 CIA operative team was working in an annex near the consulate on a project to supply missiles from Libyan armouries to Syrian rebels.

The Obama administration’s “Arab Spring” was looking for changes through-out the middle-eastand the CIA under the direction of Obama and hillary started helping Arab governments and Turkey obtain and ship weapons to the rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime in Syria.


sorry but using the CIA as an excuse for the lies that came out of the obozo admin.... you make yourself look like a partisan hack
Thank you for demonstrating my point.

The CIA does not report through the State Department. Hillary Clinton was not in the chain of command for the CIA. Yet rarely will there be mention of the CIA director when discussing the attack in Benghazi.

The annex was not a State Department facility, it was a CIA facility. 2 Americans were killed at the annex, but somehow Hillary is suppose to be responsible for their deaths. Has the CIA director been blamed for those deaths?

FWIW, I'm not making excuses. I'm correcting the record. The fact is that the linkage to the video and the idea of a spontaneous attack came from the CIA and not the White House, State Department or the Obama campaign team. The first PDB after the attack made the connection.
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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You do know that their was a call for demonstrations at the US embassy in Cairo over the video don't you? That during those demonstrations at the US embassy in Cairo the walls were breached. By Friday of that week there had been demonstrations over the video in some 40 countries and some people were killed in those demonstrations.

Feel free to characterize Muslims however you feel inclined, but it is a fact that there were demonstrations and people were killed. It just so happens what occurred in Benghazi was not over the video. However, it probably does explain partially why the CIA got it wrong in their initial assessment.
You mean the attacks that happened on September 11, 2012. Specifically on 9/11 of that year. Is that a big enough hint?

"You see, the Benghazi fraud hinges on the success of the Cairo fraud. If you are hoodwinked by the latter, they have a much better chance of getting away with the former."

"In the weeks before September 11, 2012, these jihadists plotted to attack the U.S. embassy in Cairo. In fact, the Blind Sheikh’s son threatened a 1979 Iran-style raid on the embassy: Americans would be taken hostage to ransom for the Blind Sheikh’s release from American prison (he is serving a life sentence). Other jihadists threatened to burn the embassy to the ground — a threat that was reported in the Egyptian press the day before the September 11 “protests.”"


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BTW it wasn't just someone stating something it was the agency that the US government relies on to make such assessments.
So no matter how absurd the statement is, their is no blame to the fools that believe it and spread it around. Another person who doesn't believe in personal responsibility.

The "it was a video" nonsense was a cover up for hillarys gun running which got 4 Americans killed, period.
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Old 06-18-2017, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thank you for demonstrating my point.
That you think it demonstrates your point is telling. It did the opposite.

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The CIA does not report through the State Department. Hillary Clinton was not in the chain of command for the CIA. Yet rarely will there be mention of the CIA director when discussing the attack in Benghazi.

The annex was not a State Department facility, it was a CIA facility. 2 Americans were killed at the annex, but somehow Hillary is suppose to be responsible for their deaths. Has the CIA director been blamed for those deaths?

FWIW, I'm not making excuses. I'm correcting the record. The fact is that the linkage to the video and the idea of a spontaneous attack came from the CIA and not the White House, State Department or the Obama campaign team. The first PDB after the attack made the connection.
Of course you're making excuses and you're not correcting the record. The fact is bigoted democratic leadership tried to deflect and failed miserably. They knew it was a lie from the beginning. Did they riot over a video like bigoted democratic leadership said or did they want to seek revenge against those supplying weapons that killed their people?

Ignore that all you want. Keep deflecting and whatever you do do not specifically address my point. Wouldn't want to expose yourself now would you? Truth is treason to some.

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Old 06-19-2017, 06:38 AM
 
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Eight politically motivated Benghazi investigations yielded- NOTHING

One Trump investigation, with conservative Republicans investigating Trump for crimes, and the Trump cultists are already complaining, and screaming FAKENEWS even though even Trump has admitted he's being investigated for criminal wrongdoing.
The Benghazi report concluded several things -- but the major finding was that the military couldn't get it organized to rescue them.

"Not a single one of the U.S. military forces in the region met its deadline for deployment, and none of them ever moved toward Benghazi despite orders from President Obama and then-Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta."
Seven key findings in the Benghazi report | TheHill

We have troops stationed all around the Mideast, the attack lasted for hours, but nobody was deployed.

The 31st fighter wing is stationed at Aviano air base in Italy. Apparently, they no longer sit alert there as they were not able to scramble so much as a single jet.

We spend more on our military than the next seven nations combined, and the DOD could not get a single fighter to run a bombing pass, could not get planeloads of SpOps teams to help out.

The scandal wasn't that Clinton was blaming it on terrorists watching a movie when in reality it was terrorists who had planned an attack (and who cares?), it was that the military was ordered into action and didn't go.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:34 AM
 
Location: In the reddest part of the bluest state
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It's TRUMPS' Justice Department NOW.
What's stopping him from prosecuting Hillary NOW?
The fact that the "case" against Hillary was trumped up from the beginning? - or the fact that Trump is a lying POS who never had any intention of prosecuting her? - or the fact that Trump is too lazy and incompetent to bother following through?

So tell me, WHY doesn't TRUMPS' DOJ prosecute Hillary?
Why not?
WHY not?
WHY NOT?


Ken
I note that in several pages of reply, not one orange foamer has answered this question. Someone mentioned that it is unseemly to prosecute an ex political opponent, but if these crimes were as heinous as indicated then trumps mission is clear. Besides it is not uncommon for politicians, both current and ex, to be charged for crimes.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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You mean the attacks that happened on September 11, 2012. Specifically on 9/11 of that year. Is that a big enough hint?

"You see, the Benghazi fraud hinges on the success of the Cairo fraud. If you are hoodwinked by the latter, they have a much better chance of getting away with the former."

"In the weeks before September 11, 2012, these jihadists plotted to attack the U.S. embassy in Cairo. In fact, the Blind Sheikh’s son threatened a 1979 Iran-style raid on the embassy: Americans would be taken hostage to ransom for the Blind Sheikh’s release from American prison (he is serving a life sentence). Other jihadists threatened to burn the embassy to the ground — a threat that was reported in the Egyptian press the day before the September 11 “protests.”"


So no matter how absurd the statement is, their is no blame to the fools that believe it and spread it around. Another person who doesn't believe in personal responsibility.

The "it was a video" nonsense was a cover up for hillarys gun running which got 4 Americans killed, period.
So are you denying that their were calls broadcast on Egyptian TV for a demonstration over the film at the US embassy in Cairo?

These calls were documented in the Republican led investigations and was the basis for the warning the CIA issued for Cairo prior to the attack in Benghazi.
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