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Old 06-17-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Full-face veils are banned; Men and women, straight or gay, can pray together; Sunnis and Shiites, who in other parts of the world are engaged in bloody conflicts, are encouraged to sit side-by-side.

Welcome to Germany’s first “liberal” mosque.

Burqas Banned and LGBT Muslims Welcome at Germany

It's dump or get off the pot; "Muslims". Either your kind join the 1st world like this group did ^^^ OR go back and STAY in your rat holes.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:30 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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Full-face veils are banned; Men and women, straight or gay, can pray together; Sunnis and Shiites, who in other parts of the world are engaged in bloody conflicts, are encouraged to sit side-by-side.

Welcome to Germany’s first “liberal” mosque.

Burqas Banned and LGBT Muslims Welcome at Germany

It's dump or get off the pot; "Muslims". Either your kind join the 1st world like this group did ^^^ OR go back and STAY in your rat holes.
Good to see "liberal" Islam getting some attention. Most Muslims I know go about their lives like everyone else. Most even drink alcohol. They are the equivalent to moderate Christians who may attend church every one and a while but aren't extreme about it.

Fundamentalist Islam is about 1000 years behind the rest of the world however. Just as Christians don't want their faith being painted with the broad brush of the Westboro church, not all Islam should be painted with the broad brush of radical Islamic terrorism.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Sounds no different from Jews - you have Hasidim, Orthodox, Reform, Conservative - all very different from each other. And then within each sect things are different from community to community.

I grew up Catholic, and we had altar "servers", not just boys, so the girls could serve also. I remember a new pope started and said that only boys could serve, but my particular congregation didn't think that was fair and ignored the ruling.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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The entire time, over and over, it is said that the problem is radical islam.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:44 AM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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Uh huh. Soon enough top news will be of this place blown to bits by a suicide or truck bomber, or a stabbing or shooting spree, with ISIS claiming credit. Not that I personally see anything wrong here. Finally we see a defiance of fundamentalist Islamists. But I don't see the jihadis letting this go. This is prime time and target rich for them.


I'll give these folks an A+ for effort and guts though.
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Old 06-17-2017, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Miami,FL
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Yeah, this is sure to end well
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Old 06-17-2017, 12:46 PM
 
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Uh huh. Soon enough top news will be of this place blown to bits by a suicide or truck bomber, or a stabbing or shooting spree, with ISIS claiming credit. Not that I personally see anything wrong here. Finally we see a defiance of fundamentalist Islamists. But I don't see the jihadis letting this go. This is prime time and target rich for them.


I'll give these folks an A+ for effort and guts though.
Agreed.

Tho the blowback against Muslims who wear burkas WILL get MUCH worse and, the "men" with those women will probably wind up being cuffed and stuffed by the local cops. Be careful: Islamist terrorists; your kind have many "weak spots" that would NOT bother Christians, Buddhists, most Jews, secular Muslims and so on, that we could use against your kind if society stopped being so PC.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:23 PM
 
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In third world countries like India & Pakistan, the mosques used to be peaceful until the early 90s when wahhabis/salafis started taking over. They were the brainwashed workers returning from gulf countries & spreading the extremism they learnt in the ME. Moderate muslims were regularly harassed to embrace this new brand. They would form groups (jamaath) & knock on your doors to ask for young teenagers to join their groups. Moderate muslims thought its good to expose their kids to religion but they never expected that the kids would be deeply radicalized. The guilt conscious of not being religious enough was used to manipulate the moderates.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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Good to see "liberal" Islam getting some attention. Most Muslims I know go about their lives like everyone else. Most even drink alcohol. They are the equivalent to moderate Christians who may attend church every one and a while but aren't extreme about it.

Fundamentalist Islam is about 1000 years behind the rest of the world however. Just as Christians don't want their faith being painted with the broad brush of the Westboro church, not all Islam should be painted with the broad brush of radical Islamic terrorism.

Such a good post that cuts through the rhetoric and tells it like it actually is here in America BUT talk about playing with fire and in Germany no less where we have seen radical extremists fresh from their "migration" raise their ugly heads.

I hate to say this but I wonder how long it will be before this liberal mosque is attacked?
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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Uh huh. Soon enough top news will be of this place blown to bits by a suicide or truck bomber, or a stabbing or shooting spree, with ISIS claiming credit. Not that I personally see anything wrong here. Finally we see a defiance of fundamentalist Islamists. But I don't see the jihadis letting this go. This is prime time and target rich for them.


I'll give these folks an A+ for effort and guts though.
My thought as well. I hope these people have good security. This is how reform begins, but it won't be easy.
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