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As part of my compensation when I work, I receive employer sponsored health insurance. My employer pays part of the premium that would otherwise come to me in the form of wages or other benefits, or kept by him to invest as he saw fit, to a for profit insurance company that is publicly traded on Wall Street.
I also pay part of the insurance premium, using my wages that I would otherwise spend, donate or invest elsewhere. My employer must offer this benefit in order to remain competitive in terms of attracting competent employees. It is even mandated to a certain degree, depending on your state and the size of your company.
Now, why should we be forced to buy this product from a for-profit corporation that in turn does business with huge for-profit hospital corporations, and restricts my use of practitioners to their contracted panels?
Can anyone please explain to me why the public option in Obamacare, where my employer could have paid premiums into a Medicare for everyone type system instead of subsidizing some other CEOs multi million dollar salary, was shot down?
Because you are always going to be subsidizing someone. It's part of living in a society. We subsidize everyone to one degree or another, both rich and poor. The poor might get foodstamps or medicaid. The rich get to take advantage of the roads we built to take their products to market and their employees are educated well enough to work for them.
I pay school taxes even though I have no kids in school. I pay for roads, libraries and public toilets I will never use. And that's OK with me. These are the things that make America great. I would much prefer to invest in these things than build another bomb.
Did you know healthcare in the US was not for profit until 1973? You can thank Richard Nixon for this one. He did a big favor for a friend named Kaiser. Yes, as in Kaiser Permanente. Read about it here. https://thecriticalaye.com/2011/08/3...esident-nixon/
Because you are always going to be subsidizing someone. It's part of living in a society. We subsidize everyone to one degree or another, both rich and poor. The poor might get foodstamps or medicaid. The rich get to take advantage of the roads we built to take their products to market and their employees are educated well enough to work for them.
I pay school taxes even though I have no kids in school. I pay for roads, libraries and public toilets I will never use. And that's OK with me. These are the things that make America great. I would much prefer to invest in these things than build another bomb.
Did you know healthcare in the US was not for profit until 1973? You can thank Richard Nixon for this one. He did a big favor for a friend named Kaiser. Yes, as in Kaiser Permanente. Read about it here. https://thecriticalaye.com/2011/08/3...esident-nixon/
I don't mind subsidizing things that are for the betterment of society. I mind being forced to subsidize for-profit insurance companies that are shearing 30% right off the top of our healthcare dollars. That's almost one out of every three dollars!
Because America is the only country where political bribery and corruption is perfectly legal,
and the industry has bribed nearly every member of Congress.
Well, here's another interesting fact. Medicare and Medicaid are forbidden to negotiate
Drug prices with the drug companies like every other country and the private insurers do. So the US taxpayer is subsidizing another Wall Street darling in the form of big pharma while others get a discount.
As part of my compensation when I work, I receive employer sponsored health insurance. My employer pays part of the premium that would otherwise come to me in the form of wages or other benefits, or kept by him to invest as he saw fit, to a for profit insurance company that is publicly traded on Wall Street.
I also pay part of the insurance premium, using my wages that I would otherwise spend, donate or invest elsewhere. My employer must offer this benefit in order to remain competitive in terms of attracting competent employees. It is even mandated to a certain degree, depending on your state and the size of your company.
Now, why should we be forced to buy this product from a for-profit corporation that in turn does business with huge for-profit hospital corporations, and restricts my use of practitioners to their contracted panels?
Can anyone please explain to me why the public option in Obamacare, where my employer could have paid premiums into a Medicare for everyone type system instead of subsidizing some other CEOs multi million dollar salary, was shot down?
No one is forcing you, or the company you work for.
Your employer is free to self insure themselves, there are thousands of companies that do this. Find Self-Insured Employers
To me it seems like America is in the perfect position to provide it's citizens with world class accessible healthcare like the best countries in Europe. It's at the point now where even the US health insurance companies are onboard with a medicare-for-all component--with private supplemental or elective-surgery type coverage (for non-life threatening quality-of-life conditions)--this would take the most expensive procedures off their hands, something they would love--the only thing in the way are the politicians.
No one is forcing you, or the company you work for.
Your employer is free to self insure themselves, there are thousands of companies that do this. Find Self-Insured Employers
Thread fail.
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That doesn't answer why the public option was shot down, and self-funded plans are still administrated by an insurance company. So you can " thread fail" me all day long, but you did not answer the question.
How can any sane person have a conversation with this insane logic?
Isn't health care something YOU and YOUR PARENTS need to be responsible for?
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