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Old 06-21-2017, 06:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wow, I just saw this. How have I not heard this before? This guy was later the Attorney General for over six years.
K Harris same thing and she's as anti as they get. She has a following and can't be trusted.
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Old 06-21-2017, 06:45 AM
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Location: Great Britain
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First off, I thought the comparison was with "western" cities.


Nice how you cherry picked certain parts of that article as well. Since you brought in Europe and Asia, you seem to have forgotten this paragraph.


"With gun restrictions making it harder to obtain private weapons in the UK, violent crimes involving guns have greatly decreased. The number of total violent crimes, however, is almost double that of the US. Of those crimes, only 19% even involve a weapon, and only 5% of those involve a firearm. That means that of you’re roughly 1/100 chance of being involved in a violent crime in Britain and Wales in any given year, you have roughly a 1/10,000 chance of being in a violent crime involving a gun. "


Violent crime is violent crime, regardless. And the article basically states, other than some cities that have high violence, the rest of the country is in line with the rest of the world on it's violence statistics. Which is pretty much what every one is telling you. And if firearms really are the problem, the entire country would be a war zone, which it isn't.
Except Violent Crime is not always Violent Crime, nearly half of the recorded violent crime in the UK involves no injury to anyone at all and this applies to both recorded crime and crime surveys.

Less than 24% of UK Violent Crime would even be recorded using US Statistics, however in terms of gun legislation it has had little impact, as there weren't many hand gun owners in the first place, whilst numbers of shotguns and rifles have actually increased over recent years.

Most UK Violent Crime is extremely low level, and when it involves a weapon it is usually a knife rather than a gun, and this has traditinally been the case. Violent crime covers a wide spectrum from minor assaults, harassment and abuse that result in no physical harm to the victim through to incidents of wounding and murder. Verval Abuse and Harrasing someone is considered a violent crime in the UK, whilst the murder rate has increased but largely due to the Hillsborough disaster verdict of unlawful killing which added 96 people to the last statistics and no doubt the next statistics will be further skewed by the recent terrorist attacks in Manchester and London.

If the UK was really bothered about gun legislation then we could all have voted for UKIP, a political party that has been committed to relaxing gun laws among many other policies, however the gun debate in Britain is virtually non-existent and most people don't understand the controversy regarding the subject in the US.

I am all for Americans deciding on the subject of gubs themselves indeed US Domestic policy has nothing to do with Britain, however using other countries violent crime stats is not always a good idea as they are often compiled differently and relate to a very different type of society.

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Violence without injury accounted for almost half (48%) of all CSEW violent incidents in the year ending March 2015, while the more serious crimes of assault with minor injury and wounding accounted for 27% and 24% respectively.

Violent crime covers a wide range of offences, from minor assaults such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious incidents of wounding and homicide. Sexual offences include rape, sexual assault and unlawful sexual activity against adults and children, sexual grooming and indecent exposure.

Extent of violent crime

In the year ending March 2015 CSEW, it was estimated that there were 1.3 million incidents of violence against adults in England and Wales.

Violence without injury (where the victim is punched, kicked, pushed or jostled with no resulting injury) accounted for just under half (48%) of all CSEW violent incidents (Figure 1.1).

Violence with injury is broken down into assault with minor injury (where the victim is punched, kicked, pushed or jostled with resulting minor injury, such as scratches or bruises) which, similar to previous years, accounted for 27% of violent incidents, and wounding (where the incident results in severe or less serious injury2) which made up 24% of incidents.

Overview of violent crime and sexual offences - Office for National Statistics

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Old 06-21-2017, 06:49 AM
 
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Does he not realize that he won't be a "first" unless he were to announce he is either gay or bisexual?

The DNC is still in the business of pushing a "historic" candidate.

I suppose he could become a Buddhist and possibly make it into the primaries.
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Old 07-11-2017, 07:10 PM
 
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Plus, I can walk into a gun store get denied, turn around outside, go back in and LEGALLY buy the parts for the same weapon that needs just a lil bit of work to make operational. One hour tops and I'm shooting it. I can't legally own it but there it is.
If you are denied on the the complete gun, you will be denied on purchasing the receiver (part). No loophole there.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:40 PM
 
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Thank you, but a thing or two.

Much of my time in the Navy, I was in places where they used the M14, so I used it. To me, it is a beautiful rifle with that magazine serving as a palm rest much like a 40X, but....different weights, of course.

<<SNIP>>
While some rifles built on 40X actions have palm rests (most don't), the palm rest is a function of the specific build rather than the 40X action.

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Old 07-16-2017, 08:47 PM
 
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You cannot have a gun mailed to your house.

<<SNIP>>
Yes you can. Go to the CMP website for more information.

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If you are so adamantly against guns- a perfectly legitimate position- don't you think you should have your facts in order?
Sounds like good advice for you.
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:57 PM
 
Location: NW Nevada
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CMP will not ship an operational firearm to anyone without an FFL. Unless it's a drill rifle. Which has been rendered non operational. There are no BC loopholes for operational firearms. CMP operates under the same laws as any licensed firearms dealer and GCA 68 applies to them as well.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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CMP will not ship an operational firearm to anyone without an FFL. Unless it's a drill rifle. Which has been rendered non operational. There are no BC loopholes for operational firearms. CMP operates under the same laws as any licensed firearms dealer and GCA 68 applies to them as well.
Yes they will. Fully functional and straight to your door. No FFL needed. Check out the FAQ on the Cmp website.

Myself and many thousands of others have received CMP rifles this way.

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Old 07-16-2017, 09:26 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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If you are denied on the the complete gun, you will be denied on purchasing the receiver (part). No loophole there.
Nope,


an 80% is not considered a firearm nor are you required to have ID to purchase. It's a "part". Maybe if you tried to do it in one transaction. Never said it was a loophole.
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