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I wonder if anyone publicly favors gerrymandering? Will anyone publicly express regret if the Supreme Court puts restrictions on future gerrymandering? Would anyone in this thread like to defend gerrymandering? Just curious.
This is just one district, and look how it's spaced out. This commissioner in this particular district has now watched middle class areas turn into 3rd world crap holes.
Dems use it in Maryland too. Don't expect that poster to come up with a reasonable statement.
I know there is one is one district in Maryland where the democrats do the same but don't see any numbers statewide to rival Wisconsin. I didn't see any statistics on Illinois relative to state wide popular vote percentage vs legislature, maybe you can pist them. No one is indicating this isn't a bipartisan problem. Some states have taken action but that is far from the case nationally.
Maybe you have something more to offer than "the dems do it too".
Who knows what 2020 will bring, but there are signs the tide is turning.
6 GOP state house seats have been won by Ds so far this year. 0 D seats have gone GOP. Zero.
Who knows what another 3 years of Trump's antics and R scandals will bring.
Not to mention that Bannon is throwing his shoulder behind splitting off the R's racist base. That doesn't bode well for Rs.
There have always been some districts that jumped out at you as indicated in that article but the ability to lose the popular vote and retain the legislature is fairl historic, that should tell you that we are in new territory.
I know Im dreaming but I would love to see the SC outlaw it entirely. It is vote theft. End of story. Where a congressman lives should have ZERO input into the maps.
Would at large congressional seats be constitutional?
I know Im dreaming but I would love to see the SC outlaw it entirely. It is vote theft. End of story. Where a congressman lives should have ZERO input into the maps.
Would at large congressional seats be constitutional?
I agree, the districts should be algorithmically determined based on population, drawing districts purely with the intent of creating a political advantage for one side or the other is blatant disenfranchisement.
I'd rather have a computer draw up the districts for each State and let the chips fall where they may.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
Gerrymandering is kind of like defining pornography, you know when it has gone too far but try to define it. What is the point where Gerrymandering goes over the line and ho do you define the limit. Best solution is for states to take action, some already have.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
Doesn't make any difference who does it, it's wrong.
Math nerds have come up with models to create districts with compact boundaries.
I think we should adopt an algorithm that creates district in a fair, impartial manner as the default districting process. If the algorithm ever appears to be flawed in some way, perhaps a 2/3rds majority vote, along with the Governors signature could override the default boundary settings.
So now I want to rephrase my original question: Would anyone in this thread oppose the general idea of letting a computer draw the default district lines? Does anyone here think that a reasonably impartial algorithm would be impossible to create? Or would every algorithm necessarily be biased toward some subgroup?
This is just one district, and look how it's spaced out. This commissioner in this particular district has now watched middle class areas turn into 3rd world crap holes.
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Originally Posted by Goodnight
I know there is one is one district in Maryland where the democrats do the same but don't see any numbers statewide to rival Wisconsin. I didn't see any statistics on Illinois relative to state wide popular vote percentage vs legislature, maybe you can pist them. No one is indicating this isn't a bipartisan problem. Some states have taken action but that is far from the case nationally.
Maybe you have something more to offer than "the dems do it too".
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