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Old 06-20-2017, 05:17 AM
 
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This could be the point where the rubber meets the road in terms of electing Donald J Trump. Does he enter into war with Russia or does he back down, deflating his base?

I think both sides are just full of bluster and as much as I hate to admit it, I think Putin is the MORE rational of the two.
For the record, Hillary said she would enforce a no fly zone in Syria. Did you vote for that? Hillary armed Isis. Hillary argued us into this mess.

The 2016 election was a huge, sad joke. After Bush and Obama, you would think we would learn something.
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:19 AM
 
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<sigh> Always the same response from the Left. "Bush lied," "Trump lied" Tiresome. Of course Obama never lied ...right?
Many times. Does that excuse lies now?
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:20 AM
 
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Hell, the Russians couldn't defeat Afghanistan either, so I'd say we're evenly matched.
And we seem to think we can defeat Afghanistan, Syria, Russia, Iraq and Iran all at once. Never mind who else may decide to pile on once we have made ourselves this weak.
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:29 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Australia suspended air operations because they also became Putins targets after the downing of the Syrian plane. Maybe authorizing the plane downings was a bad idea.
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:53 AM
 
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And we seem to think we can defeat Afghanistan, Syria, Russia, Iraq and Iran all at once. Never mind who else may decide to pile on once we have made ourselves this weak.
If its all out war? yeah we can probably defeat them all. But why? Theres NOTHING there for us. Theres nothing worth us even being involved to the extent we are currently. I just don't see the benefit. We should not be there.

But if Russia gets aggressive with us, I certainly have no love for them. They've been at war with us since they messed with our elections in my opinion.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:03 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This has the potential to escalate into something nobody wants. This is what happens when we put our nose into places our nose doesn't belong.
The question is: Is Syria worth one drop of American blood? IMO no.

Exactly, it's like justifying someone who broke into your house shooting you because he was 'defending' himself. And now we see some of the Obama obsessed who've told us he was wrong to get us involved all gushy about Trump keeping us involved.

Bring our people home NOW! Syria is not our problem.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:16 AM
 
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If its all out war? yeah we can probably defeat them all. But why? Theres NOTHING there for us. Theres nothing worth us even being involved to the extent we are currently. I just don't see the benefit. We should not be there.

But if Russia gets aggressive with us, I certainly have no love for them. They've been at war with us since they messed with our elections in my opinion.
It's sad that you would be willing to go to war and get our kids killed over your fantasies.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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Funny how the Trump supporters (including the OP) have gone from telling everyone that Trump's admiration of Putin is a good thing.
There is nothing incompatible in admiring how Putin puts his country & people first and also understanding that because of it, he should not be taken lightly. I do admire Putin for this. It's a marked difference from Obama who made apologies on the world stage for being American and selling out Americans to the globalists. With that said, Putin automatically becoms an enemy when he threatens US interests.

Critically thinking adults know this. Too bad you can't figure it out. Then again your only argument, time after time, is to attack the messenger rather than address the message.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:44 AM
 
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It's sad that you would be willing to go to war and get our kids killed over your fantasies.
Neville Chamberlain made exactly the same sort of logical fallacy argument when faced with aggressors.
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Old 06-20-2017, 06:48 AM
 
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Neville Chamberlain made exactly the same sort of logical fallacy argument when faced with aggressors.
You are now arguing for Russia interventions in the elections and going to war over that, or am I confused here?
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